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Value Of Anything= Supply And Demand

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Ok, so I was looking on the mintages here on CCF for Native American dollar coins, and I noticed this...
2008-P 1,820,000
2008-D 1,820,000
2008-S 1,998,108

Now, proof coins are generally more desirable, but I think that the supply tends to matter most for coins especially.
Do you guys think that this odd difference in mintages will effect values in favor of P/D rather than S? Or do you think that no one cares enough about these for it to make a difference?
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Who knows but its worth considering because of the amount of collectors in this country and in the world. Plus one must consider coins in circulation and those that end up getting damaged. Also they are still relatively cheap in proof and even slabbed. So get em while you can still find em reasonable.
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Supply and demand are NOT necessarily related
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never equate proofs to business strikes. how many of these coins circulated? that will point to future scarcity. If that answer is none- then these will only ever carry a slight premium- mostly dealer generated. If 70 or 80% of these circulated, those mintage figures are low enough that the coins would command a premium in the market.

That said, the 2008-S in PR70, will likely be the key date of the series. I wrote this column about the series:

http://www.coinweek.com/modern-coin...gawea-proof/
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Couple of points:

I would disagree that "proofs are more desireable".
Actually a REALLY nice unc coin is going to find more fans than a proof coin.
Especially if that coin date/series was released widely for circulation.
(Dollar coins, even those released for circulation don't truely circulate.)

Next, are those mintages you post for business strikes actually all the
business strikes for 2008, or are those just mintages for uncirculated sets?
If that total mintage for every single non-proof coin made, for both circulation
and collector sets, then that strikes me as low for a modern coin... but I
don't really keep up with modern gold dollars. They might be worth taking
interest in when my great-grandchildren have grandchildren.

You are forgetting the "demand" side of "supply and demand".
You are correct to point out low mintage compared to other coins.
However, this is not a popular series. To put it in simple terms,
if they only minted 10 coins, that is still a HIGH mintage figure
if there are only 8 people willing to collect that coin.
Make sense?
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02/07/2013 09:12 am
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