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What Kind Of Error Is On This 1972 JFK Half?

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The second pic shows the copper was actually stamped by the die.


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THAT is interesting
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It's called a rim burr and it's larger than what one normally sees with this type of error.
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How is a rim burr made?
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Thanks for asking CoinsKelly! That was my next question
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It happens when a piece of the planchet is cut/sheared but yet still remains attached. It then gets pushed above the rest of the planchet and is then struck into the coin. As I said earlier, this is a rather large example.
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ErrorCoins222 is describing a blanking burr (rolling fold). This type of burr is rare and this half dollar does NOT have a blanking burr. This is a "rim burr", a form of pre-strike damage that most likely occurs when the planchet is fed into the press. Others have claimed that rim burrs are generated in the upsetting mill, but there's no direct or circumstantial evidence to support this. There IS circumstantial evidence that rim burrs are torn up by the feeder finger. It comes in the form of multiple coins struck by the same press and with the rim burr in exactly the same spot.
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Very cool! -joey
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ErrorCoins222 is describing a blanking burr (rolling fold). This type of burr is rare and this half dollar does NOT have a blanking burr. This is a "rim burr", a form of pre-strike damage that most likely occurs when the planchet is fed into the press. Others have claimed that rim burrs are generated in the upsetting mill, but there's no direct or circumstantial evidence to support this. There IS circumstantial evidence that rim burrs are torn up by the feeder finger. It comes in the form of multiple coins struck by the same press and with the rim burr in exactly the same spot.


Thank you! I hadn't even realized there were different types. I also did a search to learn a little bit more, and found your article on the top. Here it is:
http://www.coinworld.com/Articles/V...m-of-planche
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Excellent! Thank you Mike for the clarification and thank you ErrorCoins222 for the link. Just when I think I have a full understanding of the minting process....I get edjumakated sum moore.
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ErrorCoins222,
Since there are several coins that can get the same error, "multiple coins struck by the same press and with the rim burr in exactly the same spot" can that be officially classified in the same way as for example a double die error.
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gamesthatgo,
A doubled die is a die variety, not an error. It is a variation or imperfection in the die that sets it apart from 'normal' coins. Because of this, a series of coins with the same burr would not be considered a die variety as it doesn't have a variation in the die. It has a variation (an error) in the planchet. A series of weak strikes or broadstrikes can be produced from the same press, and look almost identical, but they are still considered errors.

edit: I'd also like to add that the line between errors and varieties is somewhat subjective. While large die cracks are technically considered die varieties, they are also considered errors by some collectors, if they are large enough. Some may consider a coin such as that as a variety and an error...
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I like this coin, but am not really too caught up in errors of this type. Does anyone know what this might be valued at?
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