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Bulk Pennies/Halfpennies...what Would You Noodle For?

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 Posted 02/12/2013  03:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add goatieman23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all, regarding that deceased estate bulk lot post. I figured I'd like to know how far you guys would go as far as noodling goes.
I found a supplier of unsearched lots for $30 per k.g (lots of mixed Pennies & Halfpennies), so if anyone wants some, pm me. Enworb had a good find in the lot I got him. In previous lots I have found a 1925, a couple of 1946's, a couple of 1920 double dots, a few 1933/32's & many other scarcer dates & varieties.
On with the point of this post, I'd love to know what you guys would pull out of a bulk Penny & Halpenny lot.
What I search for in are:

    Penny
  • 1914 gF+

  • 1915 gF+

  • 1918 gF+

  • 1919 Double Dot

  • 1920 D/D & Top Dot

  • 1920 London obverse

  • 1921 London obverse

  • 1924 Indian obverse

  • 1925

  • 1927 Indian obverse

  • 1930 (obviously)

  • 1931

  • 1931 Indian obverse

  • 1933/32

  • 1911 - 1936 VF or above

  • 1946

  • 1953 different 5

  • 1955 mule

  • 1956 mule

  • 1938 - 1964 EF+ for scarcer mints & nice colour



    Halfpenny
  • 1915

  • 1923 (obviously)

  • 1931

  • 1911 - 1936 VF or above

  • 1939 Roo

  • 1951 mule

  • 1938 - 1964 EF+ for scarcer mints & nice colour



I don't normally search every nook & cranny, but with the current circulation coins that we all seem to noodle so much, why not? I know a long time ago, I searched for pretty much everything I've listed above & more. Then I got to a point where the mains were enough. But the next 16kg that I have sitting in the lounge room are waiting till I finish my retail management course...hopefully before Easter.
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 Posted 02/12/2013  03:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Id keep all 1914, 1915 and 1918 pennies, not just F+ examples.
I would also keep all 1914, 1918 and 1930 halfpennies.

I got a few nice coins out of the lot you got me. I havent been through them very carefully yet but will do so sometime soon.
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 Posted 02/12/2013  04:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also 1924 hp is a harder date with reasonable CV.

At some stage you'd have to think the 1930 hp is going to go through the roof, with such a low recorded mintage.

Cheers
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 Posted 02/12/2013  04:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1924 half penny is very common in all of the bulk lots I have purchased in Adelaide. I've had two people tell me that they were released here do that probably explains it.
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 Posted 02/12/2013  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Goatieman,

My resource site has summary pages for mintages and relative values for ave. circulated (VG - F) of all Australian PD coins minted for circulation (cept crowns, I've just realised ...), if you are interested in a look.

I won't link unless you request, as per 'newbie' linking policies.

Let me know if you'd like the link, and I'll post.

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 Posted 02/12/2013  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Possibly enworb - I don't see many 1924's hps in better condition, but quite a few in low to ave circ. The take up has been fairly strong on this date for me. When I do find a reasonable one it doesn't last too long.

Certainly a date I look for.
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 Posted 02/12/2013  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rbarat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Also 1924 hp is a harder date with reasonable CV.

At some stage you'd have to think the 1930 hp is going to go through the roof, with such a low recorded mintage.

Cheers


The '24s are tough to find in better condition, and expensive too. I would rate the '24 a rarer coin in high grade than the 1915.
Both the '30 and '31 are hard to come by too but they do pop up now and then
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 Posted 02/12/2013  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tim, link it up. Thanks.

As for my Halfpenny side of things...I started with Pennies, so I collected, collected & collected.
Then I started Halfpennies & I thought that they were overated. Don't ask me why I thought that. But it's just the way my collection went. I think my main issue was when it came to selling the extras, you'd pick up decent prices for Pennies, but strugle to get much for Halfpennies. I remember trying to sell a few aUNC 1936 Halpennies & getting squat for them, which was a bit upsetting for me. Maybe I should just get over it. I guess the game's probably changed a bit since I sold Halfpennies & Pennies for being what they are.

I think the 1939 Roo is extremely overrated. The 24, 30 & 31 are good if you can get them in nice grades.
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 Posted 02/13/2013  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Goatieman,

Here are the resource pages relating to halfpennies and pennies.


Australian halfpennies

Australian pennies


Hope you find them useful.


I think a lot of people have, and continue to start out the same way, with pennies first and becoming very familiar with them before branching out.

As for selling, there is an absolute saturation of sellers of pennies, while the halfpenny seems to attract less attention. Supply & demand, I suppose.

Interestingly though, and probably because people do know their coins better by the time they start to look at halfpennies past the hard dates, there appears to be a fairly good take up on higher grade examples. Not so much at auction (fire sale), but rather when a collector has the time to look, consider, and compare.

Anyway - happy noodling!
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 Posted 02/13/2013  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ADMISLSE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just order some kgs from goatieman, can't wait to noodling
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 Posted 03/30/2013  05:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay; the chance for me to noodle the first of my two 8kg bags came the other day. There were some great & gross finds. Below are a few of the reasonable & unreasonable finds:

A nice aUNC 1939 Half Penny
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A pair of aUNC 1896 British Half Pennies
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Possibly the most ugly &/or horrible 1925 Penny, I've ever seen...Enworb, any tips on cleaning or bringing back from the dead? As for the pitting...can't heal that one.
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A 1931 Dropped 1 in VF
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An unusual token..."KEEP YOUR TEMPER"? Odd, a British females gambling token?
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A reasonable bunch of 1930 Half Pennies in aVF+
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Reverse of a nice 1932 Penny in gEF+ (nice underlying tone)
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& the obverse of that same nice 1932 Penny in gEF+
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As for what else was in the bunch: Non-Aussie Pennies/Half Pennies were: about a dozen British Pennies/Half, an Irish Penny, a few Aussie 1 & 2c pieces, a Fijian 1 cent piece

Amongst the Aussie Pennies/Halves there were: some average 1915, 1918 in both pennies & halves. There was a 1956 Penny Mule, a filled 4 1924 Penny, an Indian 1924 Penny, quite a few die cracks, some die clashes & other bits & pieces that weren't good enough to mention.

There were some really nice coloured Elizabeth Pennies & Halves. There were also a couple George VI which had cartwheel lustre shining through too.

There were a decent amount of coins with verdigris as you'd expect in unsearched lots.

Overall, the few finds have kept me happy for $270 & I should be able to get close to all my money back on the rest sold as a searched lot.

All in a few days work. Time to start putting the nice away & rebagging the rest.
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03/31/2013 03:36 am
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 Posted 03/30/2013  05:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinStew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where did you get the bags from?
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 Posted 03/30/2013  09:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the 25 is #$%&ed pretty well lol probably still go for $30 on ebay though.

Might be coming to melbourne in a couple of months. I'll let you know if I am and grab a couple more kg's.
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03/30/2013 09:11 am
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 Posted 03/30/2013  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ADMISLSE to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice found goatieman, much better than mine
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 Posted 03/30/2013  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Bowden to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few pleasing and interesting finds there.

Nice one.

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 Posted 03/31/2013  03:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goatieman23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CoinStew, I get them from an officeblock. I can get quantities as large as anyone wants. It's just luck of the draw. I found that out of an 8kg unsorted bag. In the past I had found a 1946 Penny & three 1933/2 overdates amongst a lot of colourful Elizabeth coins. At $30 per kg unsorted. It's something I recommend for someone that wants to noodle older coins for a change or to build up a collection.

I got a couple lots for Enworb & Admislse. Enworb found a couple nice coins but Admislee didn't get anything worth writing home about.
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