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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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United States
608 Posts |
I don't know enough about Bust Halves to make comments to the details, but I must say it's one fine looking coin!
I'm interested in what others have to say.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
558 Posts |
Can't really see much wear. High AU or MS. Appears to be Overton 107 (R3)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sweet Capped Bust half dollar!!  I would grade this at AU-55. I think this an Overton-107 (R3). From Conzip.com/proboards: Quote:
The second and last use of Obverse Die 4. This die was previously used to strike the O-106.
This is the only use of Reverse Die G which broke up during the striking of this die marriage.
Early die states exist without any die cracks.
(1) ED joined at base
(2) D of UNITED and S of STATES only 3/4 mm apart. The closest of all 1826's.
From O-106a: (Obverse, since 106, 106a and 107 all share the same obverse die)
Some diagnostics for 1826 O-106a R3:
Obverse: Star 1 points to lower half of dentil. Miss Liberty's hair extends upwards into the bottom of the L. 8 is recut, showing at left. (Obverse shared with O-107.)
Plus the pictures of 106a on Coinzip, IMO, shows the "mangled" star 7 looking exactly like the OP's. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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If this half is not MS it is as close as you can get. Very strong strike, great brow hair details let alone eagle feathers and talons. An exceptionally clean field but I wonder about possible old cleaning. A tremendous coin with screaming eye appeal.
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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Thanks guys for the variety as I'm not up on the US Bust Varities...And appreciate all the comments... I was finding it hard to get an exact perfect picture that refects the true color and the following of the obverse is very very close..  |
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Canada
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United States
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First of all Second of all Third got to agree with muddler, if this coin isn't uncirculated it's as close as you're likely to ever find. The obverse is amazing. Great strike and cool die crack. The thought about an old cleaning only really shows on the reverse in the fields where they appear slightly scuffed and darker than the protected fields near the raised design. Especially evident in the angled photos to show the toning. I'm going minimum AU55 with a good shot at MS. Don't have any reference books on bust halves at hand now, so I'm afraid I can't help there, the photo of the re-cut 8 is nice, I count 4 shelves on the loop. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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 United States
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It's definitely O-107; the recut 8 and reverse die cracks nail it.
I would be utterly amazed if this coin has seen circulation. The strike is tremendous, and the coin is in every way superior to the PCGS MS63 I have in another window for comparison. I'm not commenting on the originality of the surfaces based on these images. However, given my certainty that this coin has been carefully preserved since the day it came from the Mint, I see no reason to believe anyone would have ever had a reason to clean it.
I don't know the Condition Census (although I'm aware of at least one MS64), but this one is certainly in the neighborhood and probably a $3000+ coin as a result if it can be coaxed into a PCGS MS63 holder.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Appears to be an AU-58 at a minimum with a possibility of going MS. An absolute beauty!  |
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Forum Mom
United States
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Beautiful coin! O-107 R3 is correct. The only wear I see is the rub on the breast. I see a solid AU58. I don't see how the breast could be a strike issue when the rest of the coin is so sharply struck. Nice find! |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Holy Smoke!! That has to be a MS coin!Hard to tell about an old light cleaning...But, I sure wouldn't talk her down for that!!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote:First of all Second of all third of all I'm pretty much speechless at that coin for my tastes wow i'd sleep with that under my pillow enjoy that D |
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United States
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The only wear I see is the rub on the breast. I see a solid AU58. I don't see how the breast could be a strike issue when the rest of the coin is so sharply struck. Susan, you're you're known to me to be a serious student of this issue; I know it's what you've collected for many years and if you disagree with me on one, I immediately re-examine my own position because you know more than I've ever figured out about them.  So that's what I did, and I came to the same conclusion as before. Coins don't wear on only one face. Wear on the reverse of a Bustie begins on the eagle's brow and the top curves of the wings. I usually discount the eagle's right (viewer's left) wing compared to the other two spots due to historic weakness there throughout the series, so if I see slight weakness there (same as RI in PLURIBUS) it's not a dealbreaker. I cannot see anything resembling rub on the reverse of this coin otherwise. You've raised enough doubt in my mind that if this one comes back AU58 I wouldn't be surprised. But I still don't believe it deserves the grade; it'd be a copout on the part of the TPG. |
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United States
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Ssuper Ddave - Coins don't wear on only one face. I've got disagree with you here Dave, you are correct mostly, but I offer the following point; Coins can wear on one side only. In old times, 1800-mid 1900's coins were generally stored in coin cabinets, on a cushion of velvet cloth and would slide slightly backwards when pulling the drawer open and forwards when closing it. I've seen coins of this era with only a slight bit of circulation wear on high spots on one side, it is rare, but on coins like this would have been a good candidate for a collectors coin (considering how well preserved it is today). Most I've seen and examined were proofs that wear from the sliding on velvet had darkened spots only on the high points of contact. Technically wear, but not circulation wear, a very fine line the TPG that get's this gem will have to conclude themselves. I'm holding out for a mint state grade on it! "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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United States
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Westcoin, I am guilty of making an assumption regarding "cabinet wear" which may be a bit overstated in my mind. Too many examples of cabinet wear exist in righteous slabs for me to believe that the TPG's will not allow it, and I should have made mention of the concept before this. |
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