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Just thought I'd share. Haven't been able to be on this site much lately. Found this in a lot I bought a few weeks back. Was going to sell it until I put it under the loupe. I think it's a keeper now.    There are more spots doubled, but I'm terrible with a camera. |
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I would like to know if that is an OBV 1, 1a, or 2/1. There are examples of the 1 and 2/1 that look like yours, but you need to show the entire OBV. Does Vicky have a smooth, rounded chin/throat? Does the crown tip impinge upon the bead or does the bead impinge upon the crown tip? Where does the neck truncation (where it comes to a point) meet with the bead(s) above the C in Canada? Is is directly above the C or is it a little left of the beads so that's kinda in between the 2 beads? Is the nect truncation rounded or very sharp tip? If your coin is a 2/1 (show me the truncation and chin/throat), it is like p 314 of the 2011 Charlton and a pretty scarce coin.
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The top of the crown seems to be fully square and lays over or cuts into the bead. The neck seems rounded but touched between two beads. I have an old Charlton that shows the beads seperated at that point. All the beads on this coin seem to touch together. I would say its a 1 or 2 not a 1a, I'm leaning towards 2. The guide I have doedn't show Canada in the pictures. I have to step out for the afternoon. I'll try to post pictures but it wont' be until late evening.
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If you post a picture, I'll tell you. If it has a smooth, rounded chin/throat (no dimple or flattening) and the truncation is between the beads, it's a 2/1. A smooth, round chin says it definitely IS NOT a plain Obv 2. If it's a 2/1 (or 2/1a) with the doubling, then it's a fairly scarce and valuable coin.
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http://www.victoriancent.com2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA.
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As I said earlier, it's the one on p314 of the 2011 Charlton and it's a 2/1 with heavy punch doubling. When we wrote the section, we had to guessimate a price .. we made our scarcities based upon comparing to other well-documented/collected varieties, but we really needed to look at scarcity closely when we were getting close to an 1858 or DP#1 price. It is listed in Charlton at $400 for an F-12 and $600 for a VF-30 (these were full retail guesses based upon rarity variety wowness. However, since we did the 2011 Charlton work over 2 years ago, some more of these have been found (I have 2), so I think that the prices above are too high ... I'd cut them by about 1/3 to 1/4. A very nice, lucky find.... you done good.
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Thank you Bill In Burl for the information. Canadian Large cents are my favorite coins to collect but is probably the series I know least about. Kinda weird. With other coins I purchase I might feel like I paid too much so I try to justify after the fact by looking for varieties. With these, I just get them when I can and lock them away for a rainy day.
I think I need to invest more time with varieties on this series.
Thanks again.
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GT - Where in Maine are you from? I grew up in the Ellsworth area.
http://www.victoriancent.com2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA.
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If you are going to get into large cent varieties, then you need to pick up bosox's books .. there are now 4 covering the 1858 (and really all '58 coinage and Canadian history), the 9/8's, Dies and Diadems, and the 1890 & 1892 series (the 1891's are covered in entirety in D & D. They are a bit pricey, but will be among your most useful books in your library and your library won't be complete without them. Go to his link and you'll see where the books are available.
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Can we get a pic of the full coin please. From the font it looks to be in great shape I would love to see the whole coin.
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I'll try and take a quality pic of the coin tonight.
I'm originally from the Lewiston / Auburn area.
Yes, I'm interested in those books. Will look into them soon!
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Edited by General Tso
02/21/2013 8:46 pm
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We listed XF in Charlton at $1150 .. you have a nice coin and I'd send it to CCCS and have it cert'd in a hard slab. That is a keeper for sure.
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Very nice coin.
http://www.victoriancent.com2011 & 2025 Fred Bowman Award Winner, 2020 J. Douglas Ferguson Award Winner, & 2022 Paul Fiocca Award Winner. Life Member of RCNA.
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I'm back. I think I passed out there for a bit. Thats a bit more than I thought. I'll look into that. Never had a coin of this caliber before. Thank you Bill and Bosox for your help!
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