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1842 Dollar Fake?

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I just aquired this coin and was wondering if anyone could take a look and help me. I did the magnet test and its not magnetic.I dont have a scale so weight is out of the question, any help will be greatly appreciated.

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 Posted 02/21/2013  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off to the forum.

Edited: Now I'm not so sure whether it is a fake or not. I rushed to judgement about this and I apologize for that. I will leave it to the experts on this forum to discuss.
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I took the liberty of rotating your pics and placing them next to my 1842. To my untrained eye it looks good to me. Hopefully SteveCaruso, our resident counterfeit expert, and other learned members will take a look and chime in. How did you acquire it?

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I purchased it from a friend for $35 he realy had no knowledge of it he found it in an appartment he ownes.
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If it is authentic (I am not the right person to make that determination), the O DOL. on the reverse is fascinating! Hopefully they can also make a determination on Grease Filled Die or something else.

Thanks for posting and to CCF!
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That's going to be tricky to authenticate with photos alone as the weight in this case is *really* key.

The denticles are nice and strong, the date looks good. Overall, I'm not seeing anything *obvious* right off the bat that's screaming "counterfeit" at me directly.

The grease-filled letters and star (which is of course, unusual but not unheard of) and the drapery around Liberty's left arm I'd need to see closer pictures of as the latter is a bit washed out and "puffy" (which could indicate a transfer die). However, this could simply be due to it being cleaned harshly at one point in its life, or the light and resolution these pictures were taken in.

If this is real, you're looking at something worth ~$300+, which is why it will be well-worth taking the time and effort to get it properly authenticated.

So the next step from here is: Higher resolution pictures in very good light. :-)
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Whats going on with the beak of the eagle on the reverse?
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Well thanks for all the help but I got some bad news , not unexpected but bad. I found a scale and it weights 22g.
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Interesting! the beak looks squared off.
Would it be possible to post pictures of the edge milling?
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Among other things, the drapery under the left elbow is folded differently than the known real coin.


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I took a big risk and scratched it and...... BRASS!!!! Yeah!! I guess it costs to learn. I really apreciate all the comments. Repost the fake picks anytime you can so other buyers can see how good the fakes are.
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Is there any type of value in the counterfeits ?
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sc2.Yes if they were counterfeited in the 1800s.
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Realize this is a coin forum.This is counterfeit.From the 1800s
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Is it even legal to own
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I don't see any reason why you can't own it, as it was not taken from the Mint illegally. As long as you don't try to pass it off as real, you should be good.

I think. Wait until someone with more knowledge than I comments before doing anything.
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