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Help A Kid With Grading Please?

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 Posted 03/02/2013  4:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DrDanger99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have some old silver dollars that I got from my grandparents. I'm sorta a n00b at this, so any help would be appreciated. My biggest thanks!

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 Posted 03/02/2013  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbsquash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look to be melt value.
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 Posted 03/02/2013  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the world of numismatics!

First thing to note is for grading, the obverse of the coin has to be shown, not the reverse.

Some will tell you both sides are judged equally when grading, but my experience tells me it's about 80/20 in favour of the obverse.
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 Posted 03/02/2013  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDanger99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok sorry I didnt know... But thanks anyways :)
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 Posted 03/02/2013  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john517 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
with respect to doubleeagle59 I have to absolutely disagree. You wouldn't buy a 1948 dollar with a MS-62 obverse and an F12 reverse for $1700.00, would you?

And concurrently the example I gave above would not grade MS-62 nor would it earn even a median grade. It would be graded F-12.

Coins are graded by the lowest scoring side regardless of the weight some in their opinions may grant more importance too.
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 Posted 03/02/2013  6:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
are you using an old camera with film ? one photo of each individual coin like the Olympic 5 dollars,(a keeper by the way) and both sides with a not so distracting background,like a white piece of cotton.
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 Posted 03/02/2013  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John517...with respect to your 'extreme' example, I totally agree with you. But yours is an example that is almost non-existent.

Whereas in the real world where both sides of a coins' grade may differ by only one or perhaps 2 grades I am extremely confident grading companies weigh the obverse much more than the reverse.

I'm positive ICCS does. They may not publicly admit it, but privately they do.

I'd like others to pipe in on this one with their opinion.
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 Posted 03/02/2013  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDanger99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1188howest- haha very funny *rolls eyes*
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 Posted 03/02/2013  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin grading is psychological, therefore biased.I would assume in a professional environment 5 individuals examine the entire coin and scribble their verdict. The 3 matching grades prevail.
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I agree that the obverse side cares more weight than the reverse in the final grade of a coin. That is why most grading companies show the obverse side as the front side of the flip or holder. On the different decimals the reverses of the coins often are different, but the obverses never change for the year. I have to agree with doubleeagle and hope this helps explain why.
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 Posted 03/03/2013  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john517 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to start a poll on this topic. I refuse to believe that either side of a coin is more important than the other.
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 Posted 03/03/2013  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi danger,

Hope all's well with you and yours... :)

Re your quote:


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1188howest - haha very funny *rolls eyes*


I also roll my eyes when supposed "valued members" poke fun at the skills of our new members...

IMHO this is not in the spirit of CCF... :(

Re quote from 1188howest:


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"Coin grading is psychological"


OK... so I guess next time I grade I'd better get out my

"Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders"...

But since you seem to take delight in making fun of others... perhaps we should take a look inside to see what "symptoms" you have exhibited in some of your advice / comments...

Hmmm.... after much review, I believe you may be diagnosed as being a "loony" collector...

Have a Great Monday everyone... :)

cameron93
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 Posted 03/04/2013  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1188howest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Context is key ... and if coin grading is not psychological and therefore biased,then what is aptitude,sensation and basic reasoning?

I'm sure DrDanger99 understood my simple humor, which is also by the way, psychological.

Just so we're clear here, psychological = consciousness.
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75/25 ?
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