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1804 Half Cent Cohen 3

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1804 Half Cent
I think its a Cohen 3
Maybe?
Thanks

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Sure looks like the "spikeless chin" version of that obverse die, but not the right reverse for Cohen 3, and I'm having trouble pinning down the reverse.
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She's banged up but yeah, Cohen 3.
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Nice,,, I was hoping I was right about it...
Value wise what do you think?
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PCGS states in 2004 a G-5 sold for over ten grand
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Wait a minute; maybe I'm just looking at a bad Cohen-3 reverse pic, but I'm still seeing differences. V, can you post a pic of an authenticated Cohen-3 reverse? I think if you were to draw a line down the length of the I in AMERICA, you would hit very different places on the wreath.
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Oh, and danny!
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thanks to both vermontensium and philadelphian for the spending their time on my post, much appreciated :)
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Ok, here's the Cohen-3 from PCGS Coinfacts (shhh; don't tell them I borrowed it!):
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And our danny's:
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Can we really say this reverse is the same?
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It definitely isn't C-3 (Which is the same dies as C-5 before the obverse die was damaged.) I'm coming up with C-1.
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Thanks, Conder! Was thinking about C-1, since that one has the early, spikeless chin die state of this obverse as well.
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I'm getting into this identification stuff. Is this one a C-9?
C-9: http://ushalfcent.com/1804%20C-9.html


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The Cud above ERTY identifies the obverse used on C-4 and C-2 (in that order). Probably C-2. Should have the same reverse as danny's, if his is C-1 (right, Conder and vermontensium?).
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I must disagree with the C-1 call,,,, There is no die break between T in states and F in half on reverse
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It sure doesn't, and that why I wasn't really considering C-1 to begin with. But was this die break present for all known die states of the C-1 marriage? Anybody know?
The presence of a die break is diagnostic; it's absence may not be.
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But was this die break present for all known die states of the C-1 marriage? Anybody know?


Near as I can tell (without owning any reference material) is that C-1 was at least the third use of that reverse die; it was originally an 1803 die. Haven't found any attributed C-1's without the crack as of yet.
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