1900 Indian Head Cent / IHC Error Or PMD?

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Gyrene7483 Pillar of the Community United States 1704 Posts	Posted 03/03/2013 11:04 am Is this a collar error or post mint damage on the reverse of this 1900 Indian Head cent? Look at the top edge of the rim. It is most noticeable from about the 3 o'clock position around the bottom to the 9 o'clock position. Ed ANA LM-3175 Report this Post to the Staff

SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 03/03/2013 4:40 pm Holy cow, Ed. I can't wait for someone who knows these better than we to weigh in. That's fascinating. Those things are raised, right? Sure looks like it in the images. Report this Post to the Staff
Gyrene7483 Pillar of the Community United States 1704 Posts	Posted 03/03/2013 6:06 pm Yes SsuperDdave, they are raised and there is no evidence of them being pushed in from the edge which is normal. Ed ANA lm-3175 Report this Post to the Staff
robbudo Pillar of the Community United States 2757 Posts	Posted 03/04/2013 07:11 am interesting. I have no guess. Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9793 Posts	Posted 03/05/2013 6:02 pm Sure looks like a partial out of collar strike, but the scalloped bits? I've never seen anything like it, my guess is PMD from a machine of some sort, a coin-counter possibly? Very interesting. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Edited by westcoin 03/06/2013 06:58 am Report this Post to the Staff
DVCollector Bedrock of the Community United States 10045 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 01:45 am Hmm...what does the rim look like (edge-on)? I'll wait for the experts too, but something about the scallop design on the rim reminds me of Encased Cents, when the design crosses over to the coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Gyrene7483 Pillar of the Community United States 1704 Posts	Posted 03/06/2013 12:21 pm DVCollector, that makes perfect sense now that you mention the possibility this cent was encased at one time. The edge is perfectly flat all around the entire coin. The coin belongs to a friend and it was sold to him as an error and I've looked at it very closely with a 10X loupe and I can't think of anything that would make contact with a planchet in the striking of it that could possibly cause that type of pattern on the top of the rim and not affect the edge at all. Conclusion, the coin has suffered post mint damage, unless someone can provide a plausible explanation as to how the mint could have caused this. Ed ANA LM-3175 Report this Post to the Staff
Drsandman2 Pillar of the Community United States 1374 Posts	Posted 03/08/2013 01:33 am Hey folks, Yeah, what you are looking at is an ex-encasement. Most of them I've seen have markings from the four leaf clover that was on the lucky encasement. However, there are hundreds of known IHC encasements from various vendors. Nice coin and thats for sharing. Although it is PMD, I wouldn't consider it as bad as a scratch or polishing. In fact, I think it makes them more interesting... especially on these later cents that really aren't worth much of a premium anyway. Here is an old list of IHC encasements. I'm not sure how active this group is, but they have a wealth of info if their website doesn't make your eyes bleed first. Google: encased collectors international indian head Here is a pic of my IHC that came out of a lucky coin encasement. Edited by Drsandman2 03/08/2013 01:52 am Report this Post to the Staff
westcoin Pillar of the Community United States 9793 Posts	Posted 03/08/2013 05:11 am Thanks for the coin lesson today, I never thought of Encased Coins having damage, but it makes perfect sense now that I think about it. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 Report this Post to the Staff
ThisIsFun Pillar of the Community United States 2480 Posts	Posted 03/08/2013 06:02 am Nice case! Report this Post to the Staff
Drsandman2 Pillar of the Community United States 1374 Posts	Posted 03/08/2013 6:37 pm ;D CC is the best. Report this Post to the Staff
Buddy Rest in Peace United States 7075 Posts	Posted 03/08/2013 6:44 pm ThisIsFun -- I love the 'sign' you made. We need to start a "Closed Case" file. Report this Post to the Staff
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1900 IHC Error Or PMD?