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Dual Denomination Cent On Dime

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 Posted 03/03/2013  10:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add smallnshiny to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I just picked this coin up, and curious about rarity and value. It is a duel denomination cent on silver dime with the cent strike off center. It is authenticated by ANACS (old photo grade) I have never seen one like this where the second strike was off center and curious if anyone has ideas about rarity and value. Additionally I found it cool that it is on the first year of the new design of the dime,1946.

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Here is photo of certification by the old ANACS back in 1984 with the photo grade sheet. No grade given, just authenticated.

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 Posted 03/03/2013  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't necessarily trust ANACS' determination of authenticity in this case. The design rim on the reverse face seems a bit too prominent for your typical off-center strike. E PLURIBUS UNUM is riding up on the design rim rather than maintaining a safe distance from it. The gutter lateral to the design rim seems too neatly defined and too close to the design rim to be an authentic collar scar. While none of these observations is a deal-breaker, together they suggest that a well-fabricated pair of counterfeit dies may have been used to generate the off-center strike.

If this is genuine, then its value would be north of $10,000. You might want resubmit the coin to PCGS to get their seal of approval.
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Why did you edit out the original coin? Mike Diamond's comments make no sense when you remove the context.
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I was trying to add another coin for him to comment on and it messed it up somehow...
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The best thing to do is to start a new thread. That way Mike and additional members will realize it is something to comment on.

Might I suggest putting the old photos back up starting the thread? Many more members will review this and it would be helpful to have them back up.
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I tried to edit it back to original photo and thread questions but from my phone the images are not working correctly, so I deleted it for now and when I get home tonight I will try to figure it out from an actual computer. Thanks all
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Looking forward to the new post.
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Restored.
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Having seen photos etc. of the 11 cent coins
that have been found, even though those were not
O.C. struck why could one not be ?
The metal flow on this one seems to match other
o.c. strikes of this type. If this is deemed to be an authentic mint error then it is a very rare one. I bet that even if the coin was sent out to all 3 TPG's there may be
different opinions from ea. on it. Not that mistakes have been made before, but I would trust an older Anacs determination before another modern TPG's.
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Thanks bobby! I appreciate the help!
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I got pictures of my other duel denomination dime edited in correctly now!
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Why two coins in one thread?

Good advise was given above was to start a second thread on the other coin ... otherwise all of us are going to get confused on replies and lose interest.

Please edit those photos out and start a new thread.

To the original coin ... you state some level of ANACS certification ... can you show a photo of whatever ANACS info you have on this coin?

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Okay, so show and tell over :) I thought they went nicely together but we will stick just to this coin on this post, the 1946. I just attached photos of the ANACS certification as requested.
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Quote:
You might want resubmit the coin to PCGS to get their seal of approval.


Could not agree more.
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I would consider sending it back to ANACS as I think the history and documentation of the coin with that company would be a plus for my collection and if I ever decided to sell it. I acknowledge that for resell PCGS demands higher prices in most markets but I personally will never spend a dime with PCGS. That company is the biggest FARCE on and in the coin collecting planet. Without getting into details, as long David Hall is a part of that company I will never do business with them. I know many will disagree, and that is fine. You are entitled you your opinion just as I am.
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I just located an auction for an off-center cent with characteristics similar to the cent strike on this dime: http://www.ebay.com/itm/300864331748

In light of this new information, I can see no obvious red flags that would indicate the use of counterfeit dies.
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