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I have changed my avatar to a rainbow toned Morgan because I think it is pretty cool looking. I understand that toning is caused by chemical reactions to the metal of coins due to humidity, things in the air, moisture, chemicals / oils that may contact the surface, etc. But what determines the colors and how they are "arranged" rainbow fashion on the coin. Do coins start with one color and then chang over time / exposure?
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 Posted 04/27/2007  3:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drpepper to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think the light hitting the impurities in the coin surface create a prism effect. Like a puddle of water/gas/oil in the parking lot.

Just a guess!

-Scott
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Most naturally-toned coins tone from the edge in, usually as the result of sitting in an album. With silver, the toning follows a color progression with age, yellow being the earliest color and progressing through reds, blues and to black as the toning gets thicker. It's a function of the thickness of the layer of silver sulfide.

Here's some reading:

http://rg.ancients.info/guide/toning.html
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So SuperDave, will the coin in my avatar lose the yellow thru the top of her cap and the red follow in progression to the cap as well ?
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Interesting question, which also makes me realize I haven't seen Hadleydog post in a while. He is what I would consider one of the toning experts. You could probably look though his most recent posts and potentially find something on this subject....

Here's another good site from Hadley's home page.

http://www.tonedcoins.org/
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biokemist6 had a great post somewhere explaining toning in great detail. Try searching for it.
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I don't care for toned coins. They just look damaged to me.
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So SuperDave, will the coin in my avatar lose the yellow thru the top of her cap and the red follow in progression to the cap as well ?


Toning requires a specific environment in which to happen, generally one in which sulfur is present to one degree or another. Yellow envelopes, certain album types, and the like. If you remove your coin from that kind of environment, the toning will stop where it's at.
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As far as I know Toning means tha the metal is starting to Tarnish then it will corode. In another words it reacts with the surrounding enviromental factors such as humidity and temperature changes to form an oxide layer on the surface of the metal.

Different metal oxides have different colors for example:

Titanium oxide has a yellow-brown color
Iron oxide has a brown-black color
Cobalt oxide has a blue color
Chromium oxide has a green color....etc

the mixing of these colors together may result in another color for example yellow and blue gives green and so on.

Depending on the composition of the alloy from which the coin is made of, the different ingredients (when starting the oxidation process due to humidity or rise of temperature..etc) will form these metal oxides on the surface of the metal and due to light reflection from the surface of the metal, these oxides will absorb all the light and reflects only its color.

These oxides we use in dentistry during manufacturing of different shades of Porcelain veneering materials inorder to match the natural teeth color.

I hope that I am right and please correct me if I'm wrong.

I hope this could help.
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 Posted 04/28/2007  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Girl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, I am just strarting to collect and I have no toned coins, and haven't decided yet whether I care for them. I would say some are very pretty. If toning means they are starting to corrode, does that mean they will be ruined in time? Bye.

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