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New Member
Yemen
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Dear friends, I will be posting here some of the raw US coins that I got from an old market. Any input is highly valued Image:  1889-cc F.jpg89.08 KB Image: 1889-cc R.jpg98.64 KBut on them is more then welcome. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I don't know these very well, but if it's authentic, I think you did pretty well. The hole behind her head is strange. Hopefully it's not due to a casting... Just shooting in the dark here, so definitely wait for the experts. Morgan Fred or Becky will be along before too long.
Of course it's all dependent upon the price you paid. As for grade, not a clue. Maybe F to low VF. I have no books with me right now for reference.
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Valued Member
United States
397 Posts |
Based on a quick scan of the denticles and the mint mark. I will say it is a fake. Sorry.... Could you post some closer pix of the mint mark? MM  For comparison, here is a real 1889 CC, be it well worn. It is a VAM 3   Edited by morganman
04/25/2007 07:17 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
891 Posts |
Hey hankash, IMO this coin looks to me not to be real. A few things that I see are the nostril looks to be to small, the date looks to be wrong, the ear does not match with others I have looked at. The mint mark looks to be a different style than others I have seen. I am not a big morgan collector, but there are others here who are. They will correct me if I'm wrong.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
882 Posts |
That coin looks like the same out I had. The CC is a dead giveaway.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1173 Posts |
I would agree that this is a forgery. Look at the eagle's head, neck and breast. Compare to Morganman's coin and you'll see a lack of detail, especially in the head and neck. This looks like a coin that was "made" to look old.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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looks like a fake to me also and not a verry good fake at that. Look at how deformed the letters and numbers look, it is a poorly made cast copy
Edited by Bryan1315
04/25/2007 2:06 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Gee, that is really bad news hankash. Me being a newbie, I wouldn't have caught it either.
Examining the pics a little, there is what I would call a "pit" in the field behind her hair/hat that looks suspicious as well as a deep crack on the reverse under the Eagle's beak. Does anyone have any expertise on if these kinds of marks would indicate a counterfeit coin, or I can expect those kinds of markings on authentic pieces? They look like a casting problem that wouldn't appear on an authentic coin.
Although this experience might hurt, I think putting it up on this forum will help us all avoid this in the future!
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure this coin is a fake. It looks to me like there is a casting line visible on the obverse edge. This is the second line that you see on the rim.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
954 Posts |
I agree with everyone else. Not real......so sorry.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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there is what I would call a "pit" in the field behind her hair/hat that looks suspicious as well
That is most likely an air bubble that busted while it was in the mold |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
834 Posts |
The key for me that this coin is a fack is the position of the mint mark the CC just is not in the right position in my opinion.
Bruce.
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Valued Member
United States
393 Posts |
The rim on the obverse at 4 o'clock looks "crisp" or out of place compared with the rest of the coin. Is this the casting line that Susan's referring to? Also the coin looks worn but in a pattern not consistent with normal wear, almost like it's been in a rock tumbler. If this was in fact wear, shouldn't those crisp rims be worn off? This is an excellent reference for people like myself that haven't seen fakes before.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1984 Posts |
Sorry to be blunt, that coin is fake. Hope you didn't pay too much and can locate the person who sold it to you.
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New Member
 Yemen
42 Posts |
I would to thank all who contributed with their opinions and expertise, Been insightful for me, my problem is that I live in part the world where there is no professional coin services at all, and forgery is allowed and not penalized. This is another 1878s US Dollar, with 38mm of Diameter and 26.7 grams. Any opinion is more then appreciated, thank you all Image: 1878 s-R.jpg99.53 KB Image: 1889 s -O.jpg72.5 KB |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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the 78 is fake as well, it has the reverse of a 1921 because it has the micro "S" and that is a usual reverse used on these fake Morgans
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Posted 04/25/2007 06:43 am
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