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Any Logic To Ebay Bidding?

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 Posted 04/28/2007  12:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add houston_guy462004 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Last night I won an 1802 large cent in F-12 for $75. All the price guides value it near $200. On the other hand, I sometimes see coins sell for as much as two times the Red Book prices --- coins which can be purchased at a lower price in a Buy-It-Now sale. Is there any logic to the bidding on ebay? I keep a record of sales prices on coins I intend to buy and find wide price variations for the same coin in the same grade, especially among Spanish colonials and other foreign coins. I think the best tactic is to wait until 3 or 4 hours of closing, execute a fair bid but nevertheless a bargain bid (say, 50% of Red Book price), and just wait to see if it is your lucky day.
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 Posted 04/28/2007  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I normally don't bid on something unless it's about 50% of RedBook -shipping. Sometimes I'll use a sniping program to bid for me if I'm going to be at work and I believe that can get you a better deal. A lot of people put in their "max bid" but I know they keep going up and up after the fact. It's kinda like a gambling problem where they don't know when to stop at the limits they set for themselves. With sniping IMO the less bids an auction has the better chance one has at getting a Lot lower winning bid at the last few seconds. Sometimes not all.
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There is absolutely no logic to ebay bidding, because such a large percentage of the bidders are completely out of their knowledge depth. You can only hope, and set up your snipe for 5 seconds left in the auction.
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I think most bidders believe that they have some type of logic behind the way they bid ,, at least I do .

now that does not mean that what they believe actually makes any sense to those who are viewing it from the outside or not is another question .

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It always strikes me how much the average (not low mintage) Morgan dollars go for!
They have a value of about £3- £3.50 in my book but they seem to go for usually about twice that..just get them as cheaply as you can!
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 Posted 04/29/2007  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texasmick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Matt, your book seems to be a bit out of date.

Wholesale prices for pre-21 Morgans are $14 for circulated coins and $28 for MS-60. Current exchange rate is 2USD = 1 pound.
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My book is out of date?

2006 mate.
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quote:
My book is out of date?

2006 mate.


Doesn't make it any closer to reality. If Morgans could be had, in any condition, for US$7 I'd never have gotten out of them.
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 Posted 04/29/2007  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tnwalker10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd love to hear Bobby or Susan weigh in on bidding logic on ebay.
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For what it is worth, I go to a lot of estate auction, buy on ebay and also buy from places like Heritage. My experience is that high grade coins demand a premium as do key and semi key coins. Now there is no doubt that there are many uneducated bidders at each of these, but the prices tend to be very similar no matter which venue I compare them to. I chart prices on a spread sheet and have found over the last 14 months that comparable coins are selling within 10% of each other no matter where I am buying. I still believe that the internet has reopened access to coins that previously collectors did not have and that has brought many collectors back into activity. I am one of them. To an extent, I gave up when I could not find the coins I needed to finish a set, etc. Right or wrong, I think supply and demand is in effect, more collectors, educated and uneducated are in the market and this is driving prices higher. Great if you are in a position to speculate.
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