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1979-P SBA Dollar

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I have 3 different 1979-P SBA's, one "Far Date" and one "Near Date" variety and one interesting coin. The third dollar has a wide rim, but is not a near date. My best guess is a late die state caused the rim to grow. There is what appears to be doubling of the date, but I suspect it is also a byproduct of a late die state. Here are some photos. Any explanations other than late die state?

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I don't see any doubling.On the third pic, the rim maybe wider by the date because the strike might be off center a bit? What does the rest of the obverse look like?
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The rim is noticeably thicker all the way around. Also, the P has lost detail and the motto is also less crisp. You can sort of see it in the photo below. I can take more photos if need be.

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The first 9 looks like it is doubled, but I think its more that the 9 was pushed towards the rim, which is why I suspect late die.

Here is the same coin compared to the near date. Notice the rim. Also, notice that the motto almost runs together. Detail is gone.



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Is the outside diameter the same as a normal coin? It looks larger?
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Its the same size, its deceiving when its sitting higher than the others. I have a couple more photos to post. Some interesting things to note on the reverse as well. Will have those up shortly.
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Here's more photos.

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Reverse rim under 'ONE'
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Reverse rim above 'NI' of UNITED.
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It is LDS die. But as to why the rim is wider, I'm not sure. Let's see what others think. I'm not seeing hub doubling, but the rim is odd.
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This one has had me baffled for a long time. I initially thought it was the near date, until I realized the date had to be close to the rim. But the thickness of the rim was about the same as a near date, except the date wasn't close to it. I would love to know what happened. I've had this coin for a long time, rediscovered it when I put together my SBA Dansco album recently.
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Good Question
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Anybody else have any ideas?
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Wide rim, not near date would be the only real accurate name.
The date is in the same position on these coins. Just look at
a 1980 and you can see the normal wide rim for that date as well
as on future dates. You have two normal coins and one wide rim.
Notice the normal rim to the east,west and north on the coin in question. No doubled die either.
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I'm with John, I think the strike is just a tad bit offset.
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I can't see how a offset strike caused this because the rim is thicker all around the rim not just the bottom. If you were to shift the strike down it would be too thick at the top and still too thick on the sides.
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