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New Member
United States
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Ok, I wish I could link to the original post but this is in reference to the Shekel of Tyre. Although I'm in process of getting my refund, the company is asking me how I determined it was fake as the have trusted dealers that have confirmed the coin is real.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
4208 Posts |
I would ask which trusted dealers and for their assessment.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2838 Posts |
Unfortunately their 'trusted dealers' couldn't spot the style issues with this coin and they failed to complete a pretty elementary check for known fakes using a site like Forum Ancient Coins and their Fake Reports. This fake was first published in 1997 in the International Association of Professional Numismatists Bulletin on Counterfeits. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fa...hp?pos=-9197 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1315 Posts |
 with the above two posts. BTW the links to forvms fake site brings up the logon page for me now, rather than going straight to the specific page. Does this happen to you guys too? |
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New Member
 United States
26 Posts |
I agree with you guys. The seller believes this to be the original coin the others are made from. Either way I'm getting my money back
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2838 Posts |
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The seller believes this to be the original coin the others are made from. Million to one chance - just humour him till you get your cash back  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2838 Posts |
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BTW the links to forvms fake site brings up the logon page for me now, rather than going straight to the specific page. Does this happen to you guys too? Maybe you have to be a member and signed in now to access the fakes database  |
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
2100 Posts |
The IAPN details say that the fakes are struck. I suppose from modern dies.
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New Member
United States
26 Posts |
Yes they are struck because they are not perfect matches around the edges.
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New Member
United States
26 Posts |
BobbyHelmet, any specifics on the styling issues? I'm fairly new to these so I would like to learn
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
4208 Posts |
Generally, its not discussed in detail online. It give the fakers something to work on fixing, but I'm sure Bobby can give you pointers (being quite old, the issues should have been superceded).
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 Australia
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The seller believes this to be the original coin the others are made from.
The IAPN details say that the fakes are struck. I suppose from modern dies.If they're modern die-struck fakes, then the artwork is likely to be a pure fantasy or very heavily modified from an original model (or a photograph), rather than a direct copy made by casting or moulding an actual ancient coin. In which case, there is no "original coin" that looks exactly like this. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I've been looking (unsuccessfully) for a great link about fakes (it may have been written by Calgary coin?), it went into great detail about 'style'.
Its very hard to explain and I usually just defer to the said article. Its something that you just know with experience, like being able to identify an artist from a picture you've never seen before or a band from a song you've not heard before.
Can't really give a better answer, sorry.
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New Member
United States
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That's okay. .. I'm reading an article that says style is the hardest thing and it comes with experience and seeing many coins. . I just hope the rest of my coins are not fake. But thanks to everyone that has given me feedback.
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