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Perth Mint On Caduceus Coin

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Perth Mint 2013 coin on the caduceus, they think that is 2 snakes. But it's actually 2 worms. Perth Mint gotta get their fact straight.

http://www.perthmint.com.au/catalog...of-coin.aspx

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The Perth Mint did get it right
I lifted this from Wikipedia

The caduceus (☤; pron.: /keˈdjuːsiːes/ or /keˈdjuːʃes/; from Greek κηρύκειον k"rukeion "herald's staff"[2] ) is the staff carried by Hermes in Greek mythology. The same staff was also borne by heralds in general, for example by Iris, the messenger of Hera. It is a short staff entwined by two serpents, sometimes surmounted by wings. In Roman iconography it was often depicted being carried in the left hand of Mercury, the messenger of the gods, guide of the dead and protector of merchants, shepherds, gamblers, liars, and thieves.
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I read medical text books that that wing pin was to use to get worms out of the human body. And which is the real symbol of medicine. Here's a NY Times article: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/03/08/h...du.html?_r=0
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I think you are refering to Rod of Asclepius.
This is a staff with a single snake on it.

Also lifted from Wikipedia.

In Greek mythology, the Rod of Asclepius (⚕; sometimes also spelled Asklepios or Aesculapius), also known as the asklepian,[1] is a serpent-entwined rod wielded by the Greek god Asclepius, a deity associated with healing and medicine. The symbol has continued to be used in modern times, where it is associated with medicine and health care, yet frequently confused with the staff of the god Hermes, the caduceus
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Impressive research Trout. If I learn nothing more today I will be satisfied.! Great design on the coin also.!
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Yes indeed Robster, something new. Oh, the intrugue.

The Perth Mint is pretty clear what it is using:


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The reverse of the coin depicts a representation of the staff or caduceus of the god Mercury, featuring two snakes and wings, adjacent to the Roman gods Mercury and Fortuna, both symbolising success and abundance. The inscriptions SUCCESS and 2013 YEAR OF THE SNAKE also appear in the design with The Perth Mint's traditional ‘P' mintmark


Some more interesting info comparing the two can be found here.

http://drblayney.com/Asclepius.html

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An interesting article unicorn
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I still say it's a worm. based on NY Times article, the snake was just a myth. Realistic, it is a worm.
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G'day kwxj61b

Asclepius and his staff has a single worm and no wings.

The Caduceus of Mercury, (which is what the Mint states it is representing here) has two serpents (snakes) and wings.

If the read the link above, you will see that both symbols are used by different medically related bodies.

If you read the last section for each of the symbols it all becomes fairly straight forward.
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After reading all relevant information I conclude the following, eating herbs from a snake's mouth and then sniffing urine is quite un "Australian". And Trout eat worms for breakfast.! And Unicorns are real.!!
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The caduceus, as depicted on the coin in the OP, is not traditionally a medical insignia, and therefore has nothing to do with worms on sticks. As stated on the link The Unicorn posted in his first post, the modern trend of (mistakenly) using the caduceus as a medical symbol dates from its adoption as such by a US Army medic in 1902.

And while the symbol of the Staff of Asclepius may have indeed originated in the guinea-worm-on-a-stick, ancient Greco-Roman mythology very closely linked snakes - actual snakes - with the worship of Asclepius. Non-venomous sacred snakes, of the species now known as Aesculapian snakes, were encouraged to live in temples of Asclepius and slithered freely amongst the sick and infirm who visited the temple seeking healing.

The creatures, on both the Staff of Asclepius and the Caduceus of Hermes, are intended to be snakes.
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