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Ebay To Buy Or Sell Canadian Coins?

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 Posted 03/16/2013  01:37 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add punman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
In general terms, does one do better buying Canadian coins on ebay or selling them there? Pros and cons of both please.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lets start with the cons:

Buying: Every once in a while you might get a deal on a coin or two, but it doesn't happen very often because of the amount of traffic ebay gets, the number of buyers usually dive the price up quite a bit. Sometimes higher than it is worth if you are in a different country than the other bidder and seller.

Selling: ebay & PayPal fees.

Pros:

Buying: If you are willing to pay collector prices (which I would assume you are), ebay is great because of the wide variety of selection you can choose from. Most of us do not have this available to us within driving distance.

Selling: Well worth the fees IMO for the same reason of the cons to a buyer. Many buyers interested in different things that you may have to offer.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JeyRey2000 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I buy and sell on ebay quite a bit! I search like crazy for deal and the trick is to change up search criteria a lot! For example small cents- Penny, 1962 cent, old Canadian cent. You get the point! Sometimes I do find some good deals too, I find buy small lots sometimes I find a little gem!

As for selling you won't make millions but can turn around a coin you thought was nice but doesn't fit your collection. Just be sure to protect yourself! Ship with tracking and watch out for scammers!
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 Posted 03/16/2013  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, ebay in itself is definitely rewarding.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jkol2369 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I love ebay. The auction world for any collectable is the best bet for anybody buying or selling.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  11:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buying on ebay is good. Read up on buyer protection and use it as required. Factor in whether the seller is charging GST/HST or not and how much the shipping is. Set your max price BEFORE you start bidding and walk away as needed (my general rule was total cost <=80% of list as a maximum). For most coins, another will always come along. Don't buy any coin where you can't clearly verify the grade and condition from the pictures unless you want to take a chance. Even TPG'd coins can be overgraded in some cases. If you find a coin you like then always run a search for comparable ones and for completed listings to get an idea of what it's going for. It's always funny to see an auction bid up higher than a Buy It Now for the same coin.

If selling on ebay then remember the onus is on YOU for everything. Seller protection requires proof of RECEIPT not just shipping. Again, read up on the details and know at what value signature is required in addition to tracking etc. Also keep in mind that nobody is going to pay $15 shipping for a $10 coin. Take the packages directly to the post office and, if shipping with tracking, ensure you watch them get scanned in. DO NOT buy shipping labels from Paypal; if there's a problem they'll point to CP and CP will point to them and ebay will remove the money from YOUR account regardless. My experience with shipping lower value items by first class mail outside of Canada (US, Europe, Australia etc) was that 'losses' were 5 times higher than shipping within Canada. ebay and Paypal fees are about 12-15% depending on the format and value of the sale etc which makes it difficult to break even on a coin unless you purchased it for <=60% of list. These fees are progressively reduced as you increase your volume of sales.
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 Posted 03/16/2013  1:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay is kind of a double edged sword. I both buy and sell there. The seller fees are rather high, but given that your audience is HUGE it is usually worth it.

Be sure to read up on ebay and Paypal policies whether you are buying or selling, it will save you some trouble. In short, the seller has to provide a tracking number for the buyer's package. If the total value is $250 or higher, it must also have signature confirmation.
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The two biggest ripoffs on ebay in terms of buying is the allowance of bid sniping automated programs, and the fact that ebay does not give X time after each bid for a responding bid, like in a real auction. These two phenomenon place legitimate "real bidders" at a severe disadvantage to some algorithim set up by a "less than melt" bid sniper.

The biggest ripoffs for sellers are that coins can sometimes slip through the cracks and sell for very cheap. I picked up a Barber quarter for $2.25 a month ago, and the seller was local, so he didn't even get the gussied up shipping fee.

Also of note is that ebay will side with buyers in disputes most of the time, and that they now take fees out of shipping prices as well.
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 Posted 03/17/2013  12:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oh, also, the new gimped ebay search engine pretty much makes mass deal hunting impossible for buyers, and I have significantly slowed my use of the site since. I went from having 9-10 saved searches that automatically found and notifying me of coins selling for less than melt with less than 3 hours to go, to having maybe 2-3 that can find bullion at less than melt.
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Not to put a downer on this great topic, but if you're selling, don't forget to file it as income on your tax return.

Of course, you can claim all expenses (associated with your sales) such as eBay/Paypal fees, grading fees, shipping etc....

The CRA is watching ebay these days very closely.
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 Posted 03/17/2013  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hammerrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess before I weigh-in on this, I'll just state that I'm a big ebay supporter. My interest in coin collecting would probably be much lower if it wasn't for ebay ... it's so darn convenient.

Buy Side: Depending on how specialized your collecting is, there are coins on ebay right now that you might not see locally... well, ever. The biggest 'con' for me is never developing a regular customer relationship with a dealer.

Sell Side: Fees are pretty reasonable compared to more conventional auction alternatives, and you'll do better than you would selling to a local dealer. On the 'con' side, to me the biggest obstacle is the investment of time. You pay for the better return you get in time ... photographing, posting auctions, packaging and mailing.
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 Posted 03/17/2013  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add punman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the informative input on this topic.
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