1909 Cent ..with Strange Detail In "o"s

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DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 03/16/2013 10:56 am Any info about this unusual 1909 cent..? Bill must have a dozen of these little guys hanging around. Maybe old "die clash"..? ....and I decided to start a little checking here...as usual...any info it greatly appreciated ...... http://www.coincommunity.com/forum/...iumSmall.jpg[/img Report this Post to the Staff

pennysaver Pillar of the Community Canada 937 Posts	Posted 03/16/2013 3:18 pm Could be tool marks, but I'm not sure. Bill will know better for sure. And is that a doubled 2nd 9 I see? Nice find! Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 03/16/2013 3:37 pm Great catch on the 2nd 9,...how come I didn't see that extra ring in the 9.? More pics from more angles coming up soon.....sadly,.. this piece is well worn... Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 03/16/2013 3:44 pm I'm thinking about soaking the coin "but in what..?".. to get that black crud out to better see into the 1st 9 etc. I won't touch it until experts here tell me what best to do and what not to do...is soapy dishwater OK..or Varsol maybe..? This cent is well worn, so it's not like I'm going to damage it or wear it anymore. Edited by DEVLEC 03/16/2013 3:46 pm Report this Post to the Staff
pennysaver Pillar of the Community Canada 937 Posts	Posted 03/16/2013 4:30 pm From what I hear warm distilled water or pure acetone are the things to use -- no harsh chemicals or metal scrubbies. With your coin in well-worn shape you won't do much damage to to the condition if you use q-tips or a soft cotton rag, but don't scrub too hard -- you want to keep the natural toning it has intact. Soak the coin for a bit in either of the two liquids, and then gently brush it with your q-tip or rag. This is a nice coin to practice your cleaning techniques on; learning how to take the years of gunge off without harming the coin. Or if you have a low-grade trader that would be even better to practice on first. Report this Post to the Staff
Bill in Burl Valued Member 197 Posts	Posted 03/16/2013 6:11 pm I don't think that they are clashes ... I think that they are scratches/corrosion on the die. If you think of the working die, the insides of the 9's and O's are like the lead of a pencil sticking up in a hole. Being that thin/small, they wouls be very susceptible for expansion as the die got hot while striking the coins. Remember that the insides of those letters and digits are actually at the "field" level of the coin. I think that those portions of the die either scratched/chipped/corroded or some tried to polish the roughly .. and they were the highest surface on the die. A die clash would have normally extended outside of the letter or digit, not remained just inside. Think of the die .. what's in relief on the coin is a recess on the die. Report this Post to the Staff
Pokermandude Pillar of the Community Canada 1192 Posts	Posted 03/16/2013 7:11 pm Acetone might help and won't harm your coin. Use a glass dish and a glass bowl to cover it up while bathing. Acetone will eat plastic. Do it in a well-ventilated room so you aren't huffing too many fumes. It is kind of nasty stuff. Some of that crud should come off and you will be able to see more clearly what the marks might be. Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 03/17/2013 09:27 am Thank you all,.... for the added info and cleaning suggestions. It won't happen soon,..but I promise to post the pics with that black grunge hopefully removed. Report this Post to the Staff
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1909 Cent ..with Strange Detail In "O"S