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Seller claims, "unimpaired" in the title: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1800-US-Lar...300872402954I wonder if he noticed the major problems with the "ERT" in Liberty and also the missing fraction on the corresponding reverse. This coin has either been plugged or clamped in jewelry. Edited by g048406
03/17/2013 6:37 pm
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Do you want it because of the mint date? It has several bids that drove the price upward but is it truly worth that value?
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I agree pretty nice example of this overdate. Weakness at the fraction is common on this variety.
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I'm not seeing any problems with this coin.
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I wondered the same thing, g048406 when I first spotted this coin on ebay. I do believe that the dies were the problem with this variety. Here's a high grade specimen from Goldberg's offering of the Dan Holmes collection: http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...e=54&lot=359One can easily spot the developing problem with the fraction that disappears given circulation. The obverse, ERT weakness has yet to much develop here, but note the surface dimples in that region (rusted die?). My main question is ... Does the reverse issue compound or contribute to the corresponding obverse weakness? |
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This is the same guy I complained about on a previous post. He improperly holds the coin in his hand when he takes a picture of it. I can't stand to see something like that. Not a good steward of these old coins and who knows what prints or spots will appear years down the road from his careless handling.
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Many collectors, and even EACer's, hold their old coppers in hand. While I'm generally cautious about how I hold a coin, there's a certain "magic" attached to holding the old coppers, methinks. The seller is an EACer, as am I, so that adds credibility for me.
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My impression is the missing details are due to a holed and then plugged coin...  |
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My impression is the missing details are due to a holed and then plugged coin... Take a good look at the Holmes specimen (prior posting above). Then, take a good look at this S-191 (not so good pic): http://www.ebay.com/itm/1c-SEGS-XF-...em2a25153575Then, take a close-up look at this S-191: http://www.collectorscorner.com/Pro...?id=13038355Apparently, they all look holed and plugged ... It's always better to study and compare than go by impressions. My first impression was the same as Moe's, but I questioned my first impression and compared like Sheldon varieties. Proved myself, my impression of this coin,wrong, I did. |
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One more time ... Check out this 2011 CCF posting: https://goccf.com/t/97843It appears that, like the subject coin, the weakened areas on this even lower grade S-191 have been more vulnerable to circulation wear; again, giving the impression of a holed and plugged coin. |
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I guess I was WRONG. I was originally coin to buy this coin for my personal collection when I noticed the over-date. When I saw the unusual wear pattern at 12 o'clock/6 o'clock, my immediate thouht was 'plug'. I don't normally deal with Large Cents after 1799, so I was unaware of this issue.
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Early large cents can suffer from swollen dies. For example, 1797 S-138.
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IMHO I don't see anything wrong with the coin. Quote:
Many collectors, and even EACer's, hold their old coppers in hand.  I don't suggest anything reckless like coin tossing games  However, I break most of my old copper out of the holders and feel that there is something special about holding a coin that was probably in the hands of our founding fathers. C'mon everyone - hug your old copper!  Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith |
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C'mon everyone - hug your old copper!  Love them and hug them and call them George... |
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Love them and hug them and call them George.. Just leave out the petting and stroking part.  |
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