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Farewell To Penny Roll 1/20,000

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 Posted 03/19/2013  11:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everyone,

Just to let you know that the first roll or 1/20,000 of the farewell to the penny is being auctioned off. Current price is $425 US.

Anyone care to guess what it will close at?

Here is the link...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/18110385744...ht_694wt_922
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 Posted 03/19/2013  11:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably some ridiculous price that only an 'avid and dedicated collector' is willing to pay. There's already a discussion going on about this one in another thread
https://goccf.com/t/141834&whichpage=14
The burning question is how did this guy manage to get #s 1 through 10? Insider help? Must have been his real lucky day.

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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe the same person who bought roll #20,000 will bid and win this auction.
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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ravenzcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I dunno--what are the odds that all eight of the bidders are private identity concealed? Maybe I'm just a cynic, but I can't help but feel they are all just alter egos of the seller.

Rob
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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting theory. Let's see how the auction turns out.
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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The auction is set private, not the individuals.

A common concern with such auctions is that they can cover up shill bidding.

I can't see the justification when #20000 was open.

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 Posted 03/20/2013  02:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pixu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since years I buy from the mint. Can't guess how many coins but there were many.... I never had any "nice" certificate numbers :( What the heck, I buy the coins because I like those not the number on a piece of paper!
Edited by Pixu
03/20/2013 02:10 am
Rest in Peace
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 Posted 03/20/2013  07:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have had the same experience was Pixu. Never a low number. How did this guy not only get #1, but all 10 of the first consecutive numbers? Quite the Bonanza.
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 Posted 03/20/2013  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
one could guess either he works at a large RCM distributor or he is a dealer himself, due to minting process at Winnipeg these coins fall into bulk bins, at best they are a random mix of the last million or so produced. Even roll #20000 is not accurate as there are two rolls on ebay with dual #
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 Posted 03/20/2013  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

$5000
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 Posted 03/20/2013  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

What the heck, I buy the coins because I like those not the number on a piece of paper!


How long will that last?

Has anyone seen a COA #1 offered for sale? I wouldn't be surprised if the Mint puts these aside for their own collection.

All this number nonsense has a risk of causing the Mint to change the COA of NCLT to a serialized hologram on the capsule to feed a whole new premium numbers game.

$10 (#20000) -> $6600
$10 (#1) -> $425 (and counting)

Since many people most want what they can't have, this would have an effect of depressing the prices of the majority non-special numbers. It would change the dynamic of NCLT completely, where people would chase after one of a set of numbers and the rest are left as an afterthought.

"I got #1234! (dancing bananas)"

Here are late numbers (19985 and 19986 of a five roll sequence) commanding a big premium:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/19985-20000..._3214wt_1163

http://www.ebay.com/itm/19986-20000..._2788wt_1163

And from the same dealer a low number 10 roll sequence:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-ROLL-SEQ..._1560wt_1163

These ROI are not going to be ignored.
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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sodude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could understand roll 20,000 going for a big premium because you could pretend it was the historic last pennies ever made.

But what's so great about low serial number rolls? There were still 19,000+ rolls made after them.
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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller is from Vancouver. Maybe he picked them up at the boutique. Or works there. I don't think he will get the $$ for it unless it hits the news like the last one.
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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doug58s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have 4 rolls of these pennies and never thought to look for a serial number...sheesh
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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yunbo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm the buyer of that serial #20000 roll, I bid 8800$ for that roll and only paid 6600$ at the end.

For this serial #1 roll, I was planning to bid 200$ for it, because I thought it would be cool if I also have the first roll in this release. But when I saw it's a private bidding, I cancelled my plan when the auction just started.

Buying the #20000 roll brought me a piece of canadian history, but paying more than 200$ for this #1 roll can only bring me a little bit "Cool !"
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03/20/2013 12:35 pm
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 Posted 03/20/2013  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Whats wrong with a private auction?
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