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hi all who in australia would be the expert in a note such as this and how are they made is the portrait printed at the same time as all the outher wrighting and pictures and are the serial numbers printed at the same time a the portrait and there is a 50 pound not also of this type if I was to send a item to someone to validate who in australia would you send it to not saying I have them just asking who would be the best person to ask some questions on the 50s notes and were they were made and how they were made   |
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G'day Shane, they're both fakes so I wouldn't send them to anyone. (There were no notes like that printed).
Goatieman would likely be the resident Aussie CCF note expert.
As for externally, Mick Vort Ronald is likely Australia's top note expert. Enworb sees him at meetings now and again.
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03/21/2013 03:09 am
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I stand corrected Shane ..... just reading about them now. Not one of my Renniks or McDonald guides has them.
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John Pettit is the leading dealer in Australia in rare notes of this ilk.
Both he and Mick would be able to validate these notes.
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Shane, the following is an interesting link to when the 50 pound note was for sale at Noble. It mentions the note being accompanied by a 5 page report by Mick Vort Ronald. http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=101381Here's a link regading it selling for $750,000 in case you hadn't seen it. http://www.coinlink.com/News/bankno...-for-750000/Should have known better than to rush in with the 'fake' comment earlier  , especially considering your interest in the one-off and rocking-horse type items. Perhaps one day my roo-na-horn will be a one off. |
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top work unicorn is there a website for mick vort ronald so I can email him
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doesn't sound do good for him.
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ha enwob how would you contact michael vort ronald
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Ive actually already sent you an email about that last night shane. Should be in your inbox. Let me know if its not.
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Both notes were never printed for circulation as we can see in the discussion above.
As for the printing process, the 10 Shilling or 1/2 Sovereign (whatever you prefer to call it was modelled around a circulation note which had Matthew Flinders in the window). I believe the printing process of that note was:
Singnature & Serial side - A base colour, in that case orange & then an overall print of the dark process. It would then be intidivually serial numbered.
The other side is just a single side colour.
As for the £50 note I would say that the process would have been very similar. Just with one extra colour process on the signature & serial side.
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03/24/2013 5:28 pm
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thanks goatieman23 what stage would the head or face be added to this now would you be able to feel a small raise on each layer
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Personally I don't think anything on an older note would be raised. The only things that may be raised would be the watermark & the serial number, but even then I don't think they'd be raised.
As for printing the printing phase, I believe it'd go something like:
0) Blank note with watermark
1) Background colour
2) Top colour (including face & all detail)
3) Serial numbers (maybe with signature phase?)
As for the other side...I'm not sure when that'd happen, but most likely at the same point in time as the background colour.
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