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 Posted 03/21/2013  1:52 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jarubla to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi All,

This looks like a real beauty.

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Low mintage (2500), 6 oz silver and significantly under 1k: $749). Looks like a beauty

-Jay
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 Posted 03/21/2013  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bpoc1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very informative and interesting. 6 oz. silver for $749. Unique but, pricey. That is U.S. dollars correct?
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 Posted 03/21/2013  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add argentum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
two thoughts:

1) that is an intricate way to make a "coin." More of a round since there is no denomination on it that I saw, but kind of a bar since it's so thick.

2) how does the Polish Mint get away with using the American Mercury dime motif and the commonwealth's Rank-Broadley Queen Elizabeth II portrate on their coin?!
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 Posted 03/21/2013  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tokenmast to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Jay

nice collar! That would be very hard to copy! Ha
nice video!
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 Posted 03/21/2013  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This thing is actually a coin for the island country of Niue that I believe is just produced for them by the Polish Mint. Niue is "in free association with New
Zealand" (not sure that means) and Queen Elizabeth II is the Niuean head of state. Thus, her portrait on the coin is legit. On the mercury thing, I don't know.
If anything, I'd suspect the artwork is probably (?) out of copyright and now public domain.
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 Posted 03/21/2013  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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1) that is an intricate way to make a "coin." More of a round since there is no denomination on it that I saw, but kind of a bar since it's so thick.


It looks like its a 50 dollar coin where it says it on the back, definitely not done in the traditional way.

You can see it in the 3rd picture

http://firstcoincompany.com/silver-...in-the-world
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 Posted 03/21/2013  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fat Freddy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@bb21---You're correct. It's a $50 coin. http://www.eurocollections.com/stor....asp?id=7330

Edit--Imagine the possibilities if this was a trend-starting first. Picture a US mint tube-filling 20oz ASE or a RCM tube-filling 25oz CSM.
25ea of the 20oz ASEs or else 20ea of the 25oz CSMs (each in its own mint tube) per Monster Box.
I buy them by the tube, so I could get into that!
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Gobsmackingly gorgeous, and as a work of art it may actually be worth the price.
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 Posted 03/21/2013  5:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting information from that link you provided, Freddy:


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Enhancing this already eye-catching release is the inclusion of selective gold plating in the form of a reproduction of the Mercury dime, the ten-cent coin struck by the United States Mint from 1916 to 1945 and featuring an effigy of Mercury, the Roman God who was patron of financial gain and commerce. What sets this coin apart from all others on the planet, however, is it's cylinder shape stretching some 22mm in length (around 70% of the coin diameter) and adorned with a stylized image of Mercury's legs with god's wings, in the background and a map of the world with elements symbolizing travel.

On the obverse is an image of the Roman God, Mercury, with an effigy of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II and the face value: 50 DOLLARS.


Except...

The so-called "Mercury" dime actually depicts "Winged Liberty" and not the Roman God Mercury, so what does it matter that Mercury is "the Roman God who was patron of financial gain and commerce" (assuming that is even true, since I've never heard that before about Mercury).

And why is the reproduction dime gold plated? Shouldn't everything except for the dime reproduction be gold plated instead?

Still a gorgeous item, but it does make me wonder...
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 Posted 03/21/2013  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add auptpdag1995 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I saw a bit of a buzz on youtube about this recently. I don't like the look of this . . . cylinder or whatever it is, although if people like it and are willing to pay for it, more power to them.
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The so-called "Mercury" dime actually depicts "Winged Liberty" and not the Roman God Mercury, so what does it matter that Mercury is "the Roman God who was patron of financial gain and commerce" (assuming that is even true, since I've never heard that before about Mercury).


He was actually the god of that. One of his trademark things was negotiation. He was really a god of a lot of things like luck and thieves and travelers, if I remember right messages too since he was a messenger.

Im pretty sure thats the first time in my life 4 years of latin actually paid off lol
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 Posted 03/21/2013  8:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to admit I am very tempted by this. I was thinking about buying a roll of the new 2013 Britannias, which would set me back about $700. It looks like I could get this for not much more. Granted, this isn't such a good deal if you consider it as purely bullion, but I suspect with the limited mintage and sheer artistic value it could end up being worth a lot more over time.

They are currently selling on ebay for $999, btw, and the Franklin Mint has them for $899.
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 Posted 03/22/2013  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, as Mae West supposedly once said, I can resist anything... except temptation.

I visited the Polish mint website and discovered they had two authorized dealers here in the U.S. One didn't have this product listed, but the other one (http://firstcoincompany.com) did and the price was the original $749 with no markup. Standard shipping was free, but I decided to pay a little extra for Priority Mail.

It looks like I will have to wait awhile before actually receiving the "coin" since a note on the website (which I read before placing my order) states, "This coin will be mailed after Second shipment appr. in late April - early May". This would normally make me a bit nervous, but the fact that the company was listed on the Polish mint's website made me feel better.

I hope I'm not disappointed when I finally get to hold this in my hand. $750 is a lot to pay for 6 ounces of silver, but I just really love the way this thing looks in the pictures and I truly believe there will be a strong collector's market for it down the road.

Special thanks to Jay for bringing this to my attention!
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 Posted 03/22/2013  1:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Eupion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've curious about that laser thing. Doesn't that burn away a tiny portion of the silver into micro dust? Basicly, are they losing a tiny tiny portion of silver each time that laser hits that silver round/bar thing?
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I received this one from ebay seller topworldcoins_de, it was send via registered mail from Germany. I say its quick shipping from this country from my experience via registered mail.

I won below the issued price, so I think Barry you can get this for about a hundred dollars less than issued price.

Silver price drop may have affected the price here, but it is sold out with only 2,500 minted and it is first of its kind of coin item, perhaps in the future it will go back up. If not, it is a (expensive) decorative piece.

I liked this very much, of course I am bias toward anything that have Mercury on it. Haven't try to take out from the plastic capsule, but it feels heavy.

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 Posted 05/13/2013  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice! I actually ordered mine weeks ago from an authorized dealer here in the U.S. and just received notification that it will be shipped this week or next. Hopefully, I'll have my own pictures to share soon.
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