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Appearance Vs Lighting Angle

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 Posted 03/27/2013  1:36 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
In a thread on another group I described in words what happens as the incident angle of light goes from "low" to "high". Here is a photo sequence showing the effect in 10 degree increments measured with a protractor. I used only one light to make the effect more prominent. The light is shining directly at the coin in each case, at the same distance from the coin and from approximately 9:00. I only went to 80-degrees because it would take a change of setup to achieve 90-degrees, or "axial".

Which do you prefer? Now, don't ask me "which one best represents the look of the coin in hand?" because they all do, it just depends on the angle you hold the coin to the light.

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 Posted 03/27/2013  1:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like the last one.

I'd like to see the same experiment with two light sources.
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I shoot mine from about 45 degrees each side. Your technique is much more dramatic. Me likey!
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I like 60 to 70 degrees.
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OK, I took another sequence with two lights at 10 and 2, and adjusted levels to match the photos a bit better to each other. Here are the results:

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 Posted 03/28/2013  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think these series validate the "higher angles are better" philosophy.
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Ray, this is a great demonstration. Not only does the coin take on more depth and life when the angle is higher, but the true colors and luster also come alive. The 10 degree images look like diffused lighting images, where the light was highly diffused behind a paper towel or something.
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thankyou for a very interesting demonstration.
That reminds me that by experimenting with one's light source, one might be able to highlight a feature of a particular coin:
I have in mind a die crack or similar.
There was another thread recently, which showed the effect of different background-colours.
I think that generally, diffuse lighting is the most "informative", unless there is a special feature to be revealed.
I use daylight, but my subject is on a table near a window. I find overcast days are best for photography: the clouds are my diffuser.
That said, I live 12.5 degrees from the equator, and sunshine is plentiful.
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I thought it clear that the dual light source effect was better and that the higher angle approach was also better.

Then--just to do a real head-to-head comparison, I opened up 8 internet sessions on my trusty Mac and positioned the 8 dual light source in the same
position on the screen, so I could in just a couple seconds (almost like a slo-mo video) flip through all 8 images. When I flipped through them from10
degrees through 80 degrees, the difference in the effect was nothing less than startling. I'm now an official high-angle lighting convert.

I envy your ability to effectively use sunlight where you live. I'm located in a frequently overcast river valley above 42 degrees N, so using sunlight here is
frequently more of a daydream than it is my reality.
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