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 Posted 03/31/2013  10:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add jleveille to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am using a Canon G12
The baseline image is shot in manual mode.
f/5
1/20
ISO 250
Custom WB

The first test image was processed in Adobe Image Ready
Auto Levels, Auto Contrast, then Sharpen

The second test image
Sharpen, Auto Levels, then Auto Contrast.

As you can see the is quite a difference between the two images and the first is larger 30k after processing. My question is should the sharpen filter always be done last in the workflow? Or first? Thanks!

Baseline image:
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Test 1 image:
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Test 2 image:
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So you are doing those adjustments in sequence, saving each time? Or does it just result in a different look depending on the sequence of button pushes?

I don't like to use "Auto" much, except I do like Nikon's D-Lighting function in ViewNX/2. However, it is predictable and known what it does. I have no idea what Adobe's auto functions do, though you can get used to anything once you figure it out.

One issue with "Auto" functions is they don't look at just the coin but the overall picture. Thus they try to optimize the background as well, which is not really desirable. Best thing is just to look at the histogram and optimize to improve dynamic range in the areas you care about. This usually needs to be done manually.

It looks like the Adobe sharpening routine is also much too aggressive. Does it have adjustments?

Here's your image with 10-sec of adjustment in Nikon ViewNX2:

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These are in order with the only difference with using sharpen first or last. I am just getting the hang of this new camera and starting to like it. Experimenting with the post processing is the next step.

I like the Nikon adjustments! Your picture looks really good. Adobe Image ready has a Sharpen, Sharpen edges, and usharp mask function. I will have to read up on them more. I also have Photoshop but Image Ready is alot less taxing on the computer.

Your thoughts on the original image?
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I think the original image is fine. Once you resign yourself to doing post-processing, your expectations for the original image change. Instead of trying to make the image look "finished", you try to make it look like the best raw material possible for further adjustments. This mostly means making sure you don't either over- or under-expose any areas of the image, and that your lighting style is as you want it to look. Always remember the basic principles:
- Composition: your image is fine, maybe a little tilted CW. Better to fix this in actual coin orientation rather than rotating in post
- Focus: your image looks good, in focus just fine. I suspect this is due to a fairly small aperture since the background is also in focus
- Exposure: this is what you can work with most in post. It's always been 3rd priority because film photographers could work with this in the darkroom to get it just right as well. But with digital we have many, many more tools to work with.

Sometimes you see Focus as #1, Composition as #2, but for digital focus is often compensated for with sharpening, which was a difficult thing to do with film.
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