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Buying Banknotes As Investments

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 Posted 05/03/2007  7:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Okay, since I have begun to buy banknotes for their aesthetic appeal - can be even more artistic than coins - I have been surfing through the vast range of them up for sale on ebay. I was just doing this a few minutes ago when I started to ask my self the following question: Which notes are the best investments for the future? Obviously I buy them for aesthetic and knowledge-based reasons but it's nice also to wonder if any of them will go up significantly in ten years or so. I opined to myself the ones from countries going through a period of upheaval or perhaps a 'golden age' might be of value to future collectors because of their historical value?

Are there other ones to look out for too?

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 Posted 05/04/2007  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a bit of a gamble, especially if you're talking about relatively recent notes, or current notes obtainable for face value from the currency exchange.

Historically, the best value notes have come from governments which weren't around for very long. Countries and governments which never got around to making coins also seem to do fairly well, as do notes with pictures of people who ultimately become notorious. Unfortunately, it's not easy to predict which ones those are going to be. We're also not normally talking as short a timeframe as 10 years, either.

I'd steer clear of high-face-value modern notes from countries undergoing some kind of upheaval or financial crisis - these are the ones likely to suffer from hyperinflation at some point, and your relatively scarce high-denomination note might be printed by the millions and end up being worth a few bucks for a bundle of a hundred. That's exactly what would have happened if you'd paid big bucks for high-denomination notes from post-communist Yugoslavia in the early 1990's, for instance.

My recommendation: buy what you enjoy collecting. If you happen to buy a few "winners", so much the better.
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 Posted 05/04/2007  04:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your detailed reply - lots to go on there..

At present I am buying what I find fascinating/aesthetically pleasing most...

I might get some of the Iranian leader as something is bound to kick off there...
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 Posted 05/04/2007  04:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add san_miguel98 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure that in 20-30 years the demand for pre-euro notes will only increase. after using a bland, non-specific paper currency for so long, there would have to be some sort of interest in their old national symbols of identity.

certain countries banknotes, (like austria, belgium, and ireland), will always be exchangeable for face value at their central bank. other countries will eventually lose face value, like italy in 2012 & portugal in 2022. if you want to play it safe, load up on notes that have exchange rate value. that way you wouldn't have to fear losing your entire investment, like in the yugoslavia scenario.

another idea....vacation in the bahamas & bring back plenty of notes. those notes have always been pretty pricy, and they unfailingly go up in value over time.
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oh, and don't forget the supply/demand factor. if you have several thousand notes and a million people want it, you'd have a pretty valuable note. if you have several million notes, and only several thousand people want it...they'd be dirt cheap!

ayatollah notes are interesting, but I doubt they'll be skyrocketing in value anytime soon. they're sorta like the saddam hussein notes. even if there's a big interest in them, there's more than enough of them available, and people are selling them left and right.

if you browse e-bay and you see a certain banknote appear more than 10 times, it's safe to assume that there's plenty of them & you won't get rich investing in them. the same thing applies to any banknote people are selling in bulk. dealer lots of 10, 20, or a hundred pieces of a certain note = not a rare note. this goes for collector lots too. the kind that advertise 20 different, 50 different, 100+ notes. almost every single "collector lot" I've ever seen for sale is full of the "more than 10 times" notes.

for collectors, all of this is no biggie. it doesn't matter to them. but if your goal is primarily in investing, you should steer clear.
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Hmm so it seems looking for the moderate rarities and trying to get as many of them at a low/reasonable cost as you can would be a nice method for future payback.

re. the collector lots I have bought a couple but they are interesting nonetheless!

Who knows? might some of them be saleable in a few years time when I get bored of them...

Thanks again for the much useful advice..


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