Scottish James II 1688 Crown Restrike

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BillSnyder Pillar of the Community 778 Posts	Posted 03/29/2013 7:58 pm Report this Post to the Staff

sel_69l Bedrock of the Community Australia 21788 Posts	Posted 03/30/2013 9:43 pm I know NOTHING about restrikes with these. CCF is for me in part at least, about learning. I would certainly like to learn more about THIS one! Report this Post to the Staff
Peter THOMAS Pillar of the Community Australia 2830 Posts	Posted 03/31/2013 02:02 am James II fled the realm in 1689, and a series of emergency money, a.k.a. "Gun Money" was minted in Ireland 1689~90 by his supporters. So who who re-struck a coin of 1688 ? And when ? And why ? Report this Post to the Staff
andyg Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 1324 Posts	Posted 03/31/2013 07:09 am this note if from Coincraft's Standard Catalogue of the coins of Scotland (1999)... The sixty shilling piece of James VII is a numismatic curiosity rather than as an ordinary circulating coin as only late strikings are known. An act of parliament of January 1686 authorised the issue of the sixty shillings piece and dies were prepared by Roettier, but no contemporary coins were issued, Around 1827 or 1828 on the death of two old ladies in France, the last survivors of the Roettier family, the estate was found to include the dies of the James VII sixty shilling. A Mr Cox bought them in partnership with a Frenchman. Cox bought the dies to England, but when he found how expensive it would be to have them cleaned and strike impressions of the coinage, he sold them to Mathew Young, of Tavistock St London. Young struck sixty of the coins in silver and three in gold, defaced the dies and deposited them in the British Museum. Report this Post to the Staff
BillSnyder Pillar of the Community 778 Posts	Posted 03/31/2013 09:39 am I confess that I don't refer to my copies of CoinCraft much, and had not known about Mr. Cox and the two old ladies. A Google search shows that this 1688 60 Shilling piece has appeared in major auctions over the years, including Christie's, Downie's, Stack's, and Noble's. Examples have been variously described as Proof, Pattern, FDC, etc, but always as, to my knowledge, the Matthew Young restrike. (It appeared in Spink & Son/Bowers and Ruddy February 1976 mammoth auction of Scottish coins, "The Dundee Collection", securing its place as a part of the coinage of Scotland). I have been told that many (but not all) of these restruck crowns show the bumps (pits) of rusty Dies. Please view the magnified obverse image at http://images.goldbergauctions.com/...=3575&lang=1 Bill Edited by BillSnyder 03/31/2013 11:03 am Report this Post to the Staff
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