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Napoleon Empereur Cast Bronze Coin | Jeton

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 Posted 03/31/2013  12:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OCDood to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi everybody,

This is my first post here and I'm in hopes you can help identify this coin and tell me a little about it. I haven't been able to find one like it searching online. I've only scrubbed it lightly with a toothbrush and water so as not to take off the patina but it's got tarnish along with it that obscures details slightly.

It doesn't have a date or any writing except Napoleon Empereur. I can't see any roman numerals after it. The back has a stylized griffin or lion that I haven't seen on any similar coins. There is a casting mark around the edge that shows it has been but it doesn't appear to be done by machine as it's not really uniform.

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Thanks in advance. If there are any questions I'll do my best to answer them.

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 Posted 03/31/2013  12:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to the CCF!

http://www.coinsite.com/content/cda...rchive46.asp

about half way down the page.
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 Posted 03/31/2013  12:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OCDood to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Boy, that was fast! Thanks a lot, you really know your stuff. :)
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I'm not planning on getting rid of it but what would you suggest as far as the gunk on it? I didn't use anything but a soft brush and water because I've heard of people ruining antiques by taking off the patina but it looks a little funky. The ones in the picture you referenced look much nicer but it's hard to tell what it would look like if it was cleaned.
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there are only two rules for cleaning coins:
1. don't do it; and
2. if in doubt, re-read Rule No. 1

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 Posted 03/31/2013  02:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The lion has two tails, which is the standard heraldic symbol of Bohemia (now the Czech Republic). This may well indicate the place of manufacture of this piece. It certainly does not resemble the typical German-made or French-made jetons.

As for the "gunk", I'm afraid it is corrosion. I cannot tell what this piece is made of, but it does not appear to be a particularly stable alloy. I suspect any attempt at more aggressive cleaning will only make it look worse, leaving behind pits and scars where the corrosion used to be. I'd recommend leaving it alone.
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Thanks for the info and advise, I'll just leave it as is.

I really don't remember where, or even when I got it. I was looking for something else in boxes I had put away from the last time I moved and it was in with some other little trinkets. I used to work in an iron foundry where they did sand casting and as a diecaster working with aluminum and magnesium so it holds some special interest for me.
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