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1847 Liberty Seated Dollar - Replica Or Real?

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 Posted 05/04/2007  12:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add okie-colin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Any opinions as to the authenticity of this raw ebay offering? I have downloaded pictures of replicas right next to this one and I can't see any difference. Their are too many fakes in the Liberty Seated dollars and some appear to be darn good. Advice welcome and appreciated.

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 Posted 05/04/2007  3:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Okie,
If it's a fake, it looks better than average. I'm comparing the image to my 1844 ANACS-certified dollar (posted in the grading forum under "Cleaned Coins") and the design, rims, denticles, and lettering all look accurate. That rim bruise at 12:00 on the obverse might be innocent or it might be a defect from a casting process or even a jewelry mount. You really need to have the coin in-hand so you can closely inspect the edge, look for bubbles or voids (usually present in a cast fake), and check the weight. Even then, I'd never be sure until I got it into a slab. ANACS would be your best bet for authentication since they'll slab a genuine coin even if it has damage.
If the price is right and the seller gives you a 100% return privilege, it might be worth taking a chance. Even better, ask if they'll refund your money in the event that ANACS pronounces the coin a fake. If they won't go that far, then I think I'd pass.
Good luck!
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Inconclusive, although this one would fall into the "darn good" category if it's a fake. I'm not an expert, but the only thing that sprang out at me was the E in ONE.
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 Posted 05/04/2007  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aceman732 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not an expert, but it might be a fake. On the reverse, there is what looks like a casting line along the left side of the rim. There is also a really deep scratch just under the A in America that might be a spot where the metal didn't "fill in".

But seriously, don't take my word for it. I'm a real newbie!
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 Posted 05/04/2007  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Southern Yankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey okie, I don't pay attention to this series but from the ones I looked at of that date on teletrade I noticed that the top of the 8 in the date seems to be a little more pointed and not as flat on the top. Don't really know if it's real or not but something just don't look right about it.
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