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A Trip To The Safety Deposit Box -- Help Needed!!

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Today I visited one of my safety deposit boxes for the first time in almost exactly five years.

I looked over some of my coins, and grabbed a handful of loose ones to bring home.

At least two of the coins are real mysteries, and I would certainly appreciate some help in identifying them.

Regarding the others, I would appreciate any comments, including opinions as to value. I have my own Red Book, of course, but the values shown aren't always accurate, so any opinions would be valued.

The first two listed are my "mystery" coins.

1. Square coin. George V. One Cent. 1920. Straits Settlement. I'm assuming it's Canadian, but I guess I wasn't aware of the Straits Settlement. Condition is AU.

2. U.S. Coin or medal, or token. 1837. When I first saw it I thought it was a large cent. Liberty head, "E Pluribus Unum, and the date on the obverse, and "Millions for Defence Not One Cent for Tribute" on the reverse. F.

3. Mercury dime. 1942 D. VF.

4. English Edward VII Penny. 1902. BU.

5. English Crown. Victoria. 1895. VF.

6. U.S. Dime. Seated Liberty. 1875 CC. VF.

7. U.S. Trade dollar. 1876 CC. AU.

Thanks for any assistance.

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 Posted 05/02/2007  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
#1 - Straits Settlement 1 Cent 1920 KM32 Bronze XF 4.75 UNC 18.00 . However there is a proof version of the 1920 that is worth $180.This be the Coin

#2 - Page 373 in 2008 RedBook. Hard Times Token (1832-1844) $22 in VF
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Gary, I just posted a picture of a Square 1919 George V King and Emperor of India 1 Cent Straits Settlement coin in the World coin forum hoping to get some info on it also. Hope we both have some luck.

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 Posted 05/02/2007  7:17 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fish

what info where you looking for with that coin?
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The Straights Settlement is actually a former British colony situated on the end of the Malay Peninsula in Asia. It was basically comprised of the land north of Singapore and south of Thailand in current day Malaysia
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Gary, the Trade dollar, if authentic and of original surfaces, is close to a 4-figure coin in AU. What chance have we of seeing a pic?

The Dime, unless the mintmark is below the bow, is a $50 or slightly less coin. If the mintmark is below the bow, we gotta dig further as that's a rarer type.
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Added: the 1837 is a Hard Times Token, $15-ish but interesting. The Crown could be worth over $100, depending on grade, which will be held to a stricter standard than US coins. I'd like to see it, as well.
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Thanks to all of you for the information.

I think my biggest failing since joining CCF has been the lack of ability to provide pictures.

Can't be that hard, right!

Bad news is that once I learn, you will all be inundated with pictures.

I do have good digital cameras, Nikon D-70's. I don't have close up lenses.

I will try and get with it and learn, because I think I have some interesting, although not expensive or rare coins.
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Bring 'em on Gary, they sound great.

I am a collector of Straits Settlements coins, and English coins generally from the area from the times of the East India Company through the start of WWII. I am not an expert, but I can tell you some about the coins and the market for them. It seems with the rise of Asian economies there is interest in buying these coins and 'repatriating' them--though the countries/territories they represent have morphed into other political entities. Similar things are happening all over the world where emerging economies with currencies strenghtening against the dollar are creating scads of discretionary income. Simultaneously there is a fairly small but steady influx of counterfeits, especially of the higher denomination 50 cent/dollar coins. Like many series, there are some key dates, mints, and denominations which command high dollars even in worn grades.

(NGC doesn't have a holder for the square coins and they look really stupid in the round ones. I have a 1932 Straits 1/2 cent NGC MS-64 RB that just looks ridiculous.)

Excellent stuff, thanks, looking forward to hopefully seeing and discussing all your coins at some point soon.
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Thanks for the information!!
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Gary, have a close look at the Edward VII penny. There are two versions, "High tide" and "Low tide".

Look here (scroll to the very bottom of the page)

http://www.tclayton.demon.co.uk/pics/pen2.html

If you have the low tide, it's worth a good bit more, but my Krause and Coincraft catalogs are at home. I'm not.
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Thanks Topher!!

Unfortunately, it's a high tide.
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Cool to be looking through so many coins in your colection and not remembering what you've got!! Many surprises I bet. If you find or have any nice Walkers or standing liberty coins that you would like to sell please let me know.

HAPPY HUNTING!!!
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You'll be able to take perfectly good shots with a D70, Gary. Just not ones that will fill the viewfinder. Figure out the minimum focal length with your "standard" lens (I've gotten nice shots with the factory 18-55 lens of my Canon), and go from there.
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The recent Straits Settlements thread.

It must be nice to pull out a boxful of coins you haven't seen in ages - almost as exciting as buying them all over again, only this time it's for free!
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