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Help With These Roman Coins Please?

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I have these two roman coins that were converted to cufflinks. I thought they were fake, but it turns out they are the real thing. Any thoughts or opinions on it would be great! I'm trying to find it what time period they are from and who the people are on the coin. What's the composition? Is there a reference site?

Thanks!

Lou

http://www.flickr.com/photos/791944.../8610580283/
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Im no good with provincial issues (Which is what these are) but Id put them around 180-250AD. Sorry I cant help you further.

One day ill bother learning them
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Forgive my ignorance, but what are provincial issues?
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Coins minted and circulated in the Roman Provinces. Its a wide term. The style is different and they used greek out there.
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I think the first one is Diocletian 284-305.

The second is Claudius II 268-270 and is quite nice.
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I'm not sure whot they are, but they are pretty nice!
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bobbyhelmet - thank you very much! I'm looking to sell these items in the future, the question I have is as follows: Should I attempt to carefully pry the coins away from the setting of the cufflink or leave them as they stand? I don't know if we are allowed to comment on the value of these coins, but I'm curious what a ballpark figure might be as I'm considering holding on to them if they aren't worth much.

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These two are provincials, specifically Roman Egypt provincials.

As Rome conquered the Greek, Arabian, African and European worlds these areas, over time became provinces of Rome. Rome then minted coins from these areas, often using the same mint cities. The coins are now called Roman Provincial issues, or sometimes Greek Imperial issues.

bobby helmet is probably correct with the id, but the second coin may need further investigation.

As BenByfield said, the legends are worded in Greek, although sometimes a little Latin is thrown in there with it. They can be tricky to read. It takes me a long time to get one.

Nice cufflinks.

I would leave them as is. Would be nice to see the reverse though.


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Doucet - Thanks for the education. I'm VERY new to this and collect US coins, but I'm VERY intrigued by the history behind these. Do you know what the composition of these coins are/could be?
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For these coins from Egypt it's usually billon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billon_(alloy)

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Thanks again Doucet, are we allowed to speculate on a round about dollar amount for these?
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Not a problem.

I don't know the value right off hand.

If you take the id's that bobbyhelmet gave and do a search with that and the other info on acsearch and vcoins, then compare with yours, should be able to find an appx. value. Although being cufflinks will change things.

http://www.acsearch.info/search.htm...=&c=&a=&l=#0
http://www.vcoins.com/

I think bobbyhelmet bought some cufflinks once, I don't remember what they were or what he paid, nor if he removed the coins.

If you take them out you may damage them and things could get worse.
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Two nice billon tetradrachm from the Alexandria mint in Egypt.
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The 'smith' who made these may have used pure silver to set the coins. You might be able to loosen them with your thumb nail or a plastic spoon. Short of that a jeweler usually has a set of plastic pliers for such jobs. If you are friendly with one they might not charge you much for the 30 seconds it will take them to open one prong and pop the coin out. They look to be nice coins and my guess as to value would be between $50-100 for the pair.
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Nice Potin Tetradrachms of Diocletian and Claudius II, from Alexandria, Egypt.
This long series came to an end with Diocletian.
The way they have been mounted looks like they are recoverable and not damaged.
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I just wanted to reply to say Thank you for all your help.
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