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10c On Forin Copper Planchet

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 Posted 04/09/2013  02:19 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi all noodled this today from some 10c coins
weight 5.58 not 5.66 like outhers in picture size 23.5 not 23.6 no reading on edge any idea what planchet it would be

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 Posted 04/09/2013  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your scales must be way off because 2.6 is way under what it should be showing for an Aussie 10c.

Many old 10c dont have reeding, it has just worn away and the colour is possibly from environmental damage. The diameter is the same from your pictures and the difference in weight 0.6grams (from inaccurate scales) isn't unusual.

In the first photo the reverse shows some silver colour around the details which further leads me to suspect environmental damage.

The other very remote possibility, other than foreign planchet or more likely, damage, is that it was incorrectly annealed. I have seen a couple 20c coins like that.

I would recommend getting it XRF'd before you get too excited.
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04/09/2013 03:38 am
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 Posted 04/09/2013  04:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

enworb gave it a scratch on the rim its copper under
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Get someone to zap it and see what the composition is.
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 Posted 04/09/2013  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bubble wraped to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
definitely looks copper to me I would look into it further like enworb said.
Whats the story with the edge milling ?
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 Posted 04/09/2013  05:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FNQ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin exhibits all the characteristics of a "weathered" coin, most probably from being on/in the ground, and are found in circulation on a semi-regular basis.
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 Posted 04/09/2013  06:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bubble wraped to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes most probably in the ground
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going to bris vages tomorrow will get it tested
I have had weathed coin many time not like this one we will see tomorrow if it is copper what planchet could it be at thay weight and size I can find anything
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You need an accurate weight to work that out.
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 Posted 04/09/2013  07:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two things that I have observed on 10 cent coins:

1. copper appearance - ground burial can be the cause. It would still have white metal underneath the brown patina.

2. no edge milling.
I have fooled around to remove edge milling myself, so that it looks like a Two Cent coin in this regard, The only problem is that the finished edge is not quite flat across the thickness.

Never seen both these things together, but it could be easily contrived.
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Here's one of your typical "baldies" on top of the heap. Combine a commonly worn coin with some earth, and hey presto, 10c piece on "foreign copper planchet"...
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Never ever scratch a coin you think may be valuable as any sort of test. It's very likely environmental damage and no edge milling a result of wear as stated above. Just to check though get it tested on an XRF machine, most gold/silver buyers should have one of these to test metal fineness.I wouldn't be getting excited though.
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 Posted 04/10/2013  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

You can get most of that brown off with a little CLR



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Here's my environmental roadkill park footpath find.
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Cupronickel?
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I am pretty sure that it would be cupronickel.
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