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1944y. - Die Fill Or Variation?

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 Posted 04/12/2013  11:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Note to self - purchase one of those Rennick's Books!
I recently purchased a small bulk lot of halfpennies and received a 1944y. penny as a gift. I was about to put it in away, and noticed that the dot (mintmark) looked a little low.
I thought I might take a pic to try and verify this. So I took a pic of a high dot and a low dot. To my surprise, the low seemed to have a blunt second "n", as highlighted in the pic. I don't know enough about die fills (or variations for that matter). Can someone tell me if this is a die fll, variation, or something else? pic1 = high dot, pic2 =low dot, different "n", pic3= low dot with a blunt "n"
Further info - I have 17 1944y. pennies, 11 have a low dot, and 6 have a high dot.





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 Posted 04/13/2013  12:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day Sfitzernator

Lots of info for you here ...

https://goccf.com/t/133120
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 Posted 04/13/2013  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many Thanks, Unicorn, up to 7 dot varieties listed. Better pull all those 1944y.'s out again!
Interested to find out about the blunt/pointy "n"'s as well.
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 Posted 04/13/2013  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure about the N in the bottom pic, seems to have a shadow of where it should be. Can't see any variety listed in Renniks regarding the N. Must check some and see .....
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Well done with the penny's. Knowledge is always a good thing, Thanks Unicorn. I can now hunt through my dots..... Excellent thread!
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On high res it looks like a shadow, but there does not appear to be any damage around that area, I've checked it out under 43x magnification. Not appearent in the pic is that this coin has a light orange brilliance about it. Also, interestingly, on the second pic, the end of the "n" appears more like a blob than a point, but this may just be a coincidence, not sure if they are the same die.
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Well, sticking to the roaring fourties and y. variations, I bought a cheap desktop lamp on Thurs. I have been trolling E-Bay searching for K.G pennies in '40 & '41, and I thought I'd pull out the ones I have first, just as a double check prior to buying one.Under the lamp and low magnification, to my surprise, I believe I found 2 variations of the K.G and two variations of the Y. Pics below:



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 Posted 04/24/2013  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Received in the mail today what I thought was a normal, everyday 1942 y. Penny. I still don't have a normal, everyday 1942y. penny!



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 Posted 04/24/2013  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Unicorn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice variety sfitzernator

Can you get a pic of the whole reverse from directly above?

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A little verdigris on the "R". Actually, looks to be struck a little off centre as well.The dot is a little pin jerk in the mylar.



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A nice little die crack!
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 Posted 04/24/2013  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sfitzernator to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, now I have more questions -
Can Verdigris spread from coin to coin if they are in 2x2 holders?
Should I give this one a good soaking in Olive Oil?
This one is in an adhesive 2x2, I much prefer the staples, as I'm concerned that the glue can somehow react with the surface of the coin, so I think I will take it out, anyway.
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The verdigris will spread to other coins as well as grow on this coin. I would not soak this coin. It is a low value coin so I would get a cotton bud and dip it in oil and use that to gently rub the verdigris. Id then dip the whole coin in acetone to remove the oil.
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