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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I need a book on large cents showing the different varieties, mintage and rarity. what is the best one to buy. I see penny whimsey out there, however, there appears to be several versions and prices are all over the place from $25 to several hundred. not sure why this would be. does it matter what version it is? I see books by Breen, Noyes, Wright & Grellman. are there any that cover all years? if not, how many books do I need to cover them. lots of questions but I want to be sure I get the right book or books. Edited by panzaldi
04/13/2013 1:26 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Bill Noyes just released a pair of books covering 1816 to 1857. It's about $200, but if you want to most recent rarities, it's the way to go. Can't go wrong with the Newcomb book, but the rarities won't be up to date and will show some varieties that are currently delisted.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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OldSkoolMadSkil - Do you know where I can find the new Noyes set?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4897 Posts |
Charles Davis has the Noyes books.... http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/cha...ditems=FalseUsually can find them at the major shows also..one of these days I will bite the bullet and pick them up myself. Working from Newcomb can be a bit of a drag especially the late dates. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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There isn't a single book, it is going to take at least three. For the early dates I would recommend the Encyclopedia of US Large Cents 1793 - 1814 by Breen. Sheldon is good, and if you get serious in the early cents I would recommend a copy (But NOT the 1990 edition). For Middle and late dates the new Noyes books may be the way to go, I can't say for sure because I haven't seen them yet. Right now my recommendations would be The Cent by John Wright and United States Cents 1840 - 1857 by Bob Grellman. I would also STRONGLY recommend picking up copies of the Dan Holmes sales parts I, II, and IV by Goldberg Auctions if you can. Large clear images of every die variety in the series except 1825 N-5 and 1851 N-42 including ALL of the early date NC varieties. (1825 N-5 was not rediscovered until after the sale, and 1851 N-42 is unique and Dan couldn't convince the owner to sell it so he could have an complete set.) The first two catalogs are excellent for attributions. I'm not sure you can do attributions on the late dates from photos. In some cases I'm sure you can, but in many I think the best you can do is narrow down your options. But if it can be done then the Noyes book might be it. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The new Noyes books are very thorough. The only thing I don't like are the color pictures. I actually think that B&W would show the detail better.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As I said I haven't seen them yet but I would probably agree. I find that for attributions B&W tends to work better. It's like with the latest bust quarter book. The coins are beautiful, with many if not most of them heavily toned, but the toning tends it keep you from being able to see the fine details you need for attributions.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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thanks for all your insight. I have checked pricing on these and find them out of my reach, I bid on a copy of "the Cent" but was not able to win it. however, I will keep looking for used copies.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"The Cent" along with the Noyes books are fantastic, I don't have either one (yet) in my numismatic library. Need to get copies of them all soon as they won't be getting any cheaper. Dan Brown Auction catalouges are a great reference I bought a set a couple of years ago from a local dealer. For Half Cents the Manley Die state book is incredible, I just picked up a copy on ebay recently - but had to pay over $200 to win it. Not a bad price considering it was originally released at $100 and only a 100 copies or so were printed. Also the 2nd edition of Cohen's "Little Half Sisters" book is the standard reference. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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United States
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excellent advice, thanks, I will be buying some of above just on your advice
thanks
incredible knowledgeable collectors on the site
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