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Hopefully it is ok if I put another topic on this subforum, since another topic concerning this coin ( https://goccf.com/t/144721 - more pics there) isn't concerning grading really. Should I send this to a TPG, which one, and what do you think it will grade (or what would you grade it, which hopefully shouldn't be different)? Obviously I can't take away the price on the 2x2, so do you think I got a good deal? The pictures on the first page of the other topic may also help to show more detail of any dirt on the coin (although perhaps some dirt came off with acetone, no major difference is seen).      Thanks all for your time! |
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Unfortunately the scratches in the fields and some of the environmental spots might hold it back at a TPG. TPGs will be very select on higher grades on this coin as rarity is not aggressive and that allows for finicky selections. It would make AU but I'm not sure choice what did you pay? Edited by dsfreeworld
04/13/2013 10:08 pm
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WJ, Your coin is nice and I feel that the glare on the first two obverse shots did not detract from its overall exposition of detail. However, the third observe shot actually drowned out some important detail. One opinion and another suggestion: My opinion is that this coin just makes MS-60. I would suggest that you explore inexpensive means to diffuse your lighting source for the elimination of distracting glare. May I humbly comment that you check out my unorthodox method of cutting back on glare; this method should effectively function with virtually any type of photographic light source: https://goccf.com/t/88598&whichpage=4Should you be motivated enough to try out this suggestion, please opine on its effectiveness by uploading a representative demo photo with and/or without CFL lighting. fyi, mdpmedia |
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It's hard to tell from some of the pictures but my guess it would come back as an AU with environmental damage if sent to ANACS. If the price on the 2x2 was about what you paid you got a decent deal.
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WJeeda, I went back to your post and $85 is inline with market trends as a price point for your coin raw unless it were to get a details grade which would cut that by 2/3rds considering the commonality of problem free examples in the market Also consider you would have to add $22 in slab and postage costs to send it in. To answer your question, and of course IMHO, do not send it to a TPG and either return it and PATIENTLY hunt for an already slabbed PCGS or NGC in AU50/53 or possible AU55 for the same $100 your willing to invest (total w/slab) in this coin |
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thanks all!
to answer several things...
-the third picture does take away detail, but I added it on just cuz.
-I do not intend to sell this coin...I'm keeping this baby! she jumped right out at me.
-it is definitely a pity that it has the carbon spots on it.
-as others have noticed, I paid $85, which is about right for the coin.
-others have suggested sending it to PCGS, as can be seen in the topic linked to in the first post. I may; I'm not sure; I believe that it is in great condition, and should receive a high grade, but as some have noted, it may come back as details
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-I am looking for a good camera setup, although currently I don't have the time to pursue that goal. could anyone suggest a good camera or USB microscope camera?
-would this coin actually come back as details from the spots (others have suggested that they are carbon spots)?
Overall, I really like this coin, and when I view it from the side, it looks lovely...the only problems are the spots and a few scratches. I don't think I'll ever regret buying this coin.
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to answer several things...
-the third picture does take away detail, but I added it on just cuz.
-I do not intend to sell this coin...I'm keeping this baby! she jumped right out at me.
-it is definitely a pity that it has the carbon spots on it.
-as others have noticed, I paid $85, which is about right for the coin.
-others have suggested sending it to PCGS, as can be seen in the topic linked to in the first post. I may; I'm not sure; I believe that it is in great condition, and should receive a high grade, but as some have noted, it may come back as details Quote:
WJeeda, I went back to your post and $85 is inline with market trends as a price point for your coin raw unless it were to get a details grade which would cut that by 2/3rds considering the commonality of problem free examples in the market I'm with dsfreeworld on this one. I would return it and look for something else with your $85. That looks like environmental damage to me, and I think you could get something a lot better with your money. |
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My opinion is that this coin just makes MS-60. And I'm with mdpmedia on this one, lol. No offense intended to LincolnGuy or dsfreeworld. This coin is a keeper to me, a real beauty for it's time. It's a great coin, and if it was graded at MS-60, it would be worth $150; 2/3 of that is $100. $85 is the most I've spent on a coin, and it was worth it to me. Next after that is $35 on a Morgan, worth perhaps $70-$80, so I'm not exactly Mr Moneybags to buy and sell coins. Being in high school and wanting to save money doesn't encourage this hobby, unfortunately. I know, I might just be looking for the top value, but I really think more opinions are needed, and I will try to find a coin show in my area and see what experts there think. |
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The spotting is not preferable but they don't seem severe enough to warrant a details grade. They may cause a slight downgrade. IMHO, the coin is a easy AU-58 without the spots but it may grade AU-55 because of them. Looking at the most recent sales of certified examples on ebay and Heritage, an AU-55 is probably around a $100 and an AU-58 is about $10-20 more. |
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I'd go AU50 or AU53 maybe would make AU55 if the luster underneath is still strong. I'm seeing light hairlines from what looks like circulation or handling in the fields on the obverse. I've bought and sold a lot of Liberty nickels in my time, mostly Proofs but they can be awfully dificult to photograph well, so maybe that is why the grades are lower from many of us here on CCF. In hand this coin might easily be MS61/62 the detail is sure there. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2˘ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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