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There appears to be no distortion to the letters and they follow the profile of the damage therefore 'appearing' to have been struck after the damage was caused. But the dark burn? is on the letters so this contradicts this. I realize it must be PMD but just can't work out what would have caused it. I have seen a lot of pennies with similar damage, as if caught in a press. Any ideas? Thanks.  |
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Australia
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Australia
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Interesting .... Any chance of an image of the obverse?  |
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Valued Member
 Australia
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Would have been a bit o' fancy footwork required to dodge the ricochet. LOL
I can see where you are coming from but that would have distorted the letters. imo
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Australia
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I took a photo of the reverse but it turned out badly, I will post it in the interim and get a better one.  |
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Has it been shot?  looks like it was shot or hit with a metal punch |
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Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I would say hit with an air gun pellet. The lead is still on the coin and the small size of the impact area suggest a low velocity small bore weapon was used  |
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Australia
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Do you think that the pellet would not damage the letters though?
The strokes still have sharp edges and sides.
I have seen this sort of damage many times on Aussie coins and it makes me wonder if there is a machine within the mint that can cause this when it misfires. Either accidentally or with some assistance from 'playful' workers. I can entertain the idea that this one was damaged prior to minting and that would suggest someone horsing around. Most times I have seen the letters slammed as well.
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Australia
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Oxy Acetylene Torch and Welding Rod. Or a Mig Welder.!!?
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Given the obverse damage, I'd agree it's been shot, or some similar related high-impact post-mint damage.
If the planchet had been damaged prior to minting, then the massive indentation in the obverse would have to have been squeezed back into place when the coin was struck, especially if you were then going to get the detail of the lettering appearing inside the reverse cavity.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Hi Sap. That makes complete sense. Thank you.
In fact simply continuing with your thought it is impossible to strike a legend that rises and falls.
It can only be done on the one plane.
Also all of the metal would have flowed to fill the hole during striking so it HAS to be post mint.
Thanks for all your thoughts. darge
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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The 'shot' theory could be confirmed by looking for lead particles in the surface. By the looks of it, that is what the darkening appears to be.
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I was thinking that the discoloured part could be lead from a bullet (although I dont know much about bullets - they are lead arent they?).
Lead is quite soft, so I think that it could initially squash around the letters, before pushing the dent into the whole coin, that might keep the letters still somewhat in place?
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I'm with Trout1105 on this one. A pellet rifle did the damage.
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Posted 04/19/2013 02:17 am
