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New Member
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First, noticed the rotation. After looking into error coins, I have a question. Would this be called a 1951 no design? Not familiar with all of the names yet. Thank you.   |
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Rest in Peace
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ArchW....  ..to the forum..Your coin is rotated approx. 13.90 degrees...I will wait to hear from the experts as to what your coin is..! ArchW...are you sure you have not got your dates mixed up..?..I believe the NO DESIGN is relegated to the 1950 coin..? 
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04/19/2013 8:53 pm
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New Member
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Wert, Thank you for your angle and interest.
I am not sure about anything.
The date reference is from Calgary Coin. (new guys don't post links)
click> Canadian coins for sale > 50 Cent coins, scroll down to 1941 image.
Paragraph above reads "and well established as a collectable variety (such as the 1946 design, 1951 no design, etc)."
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New Member
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Seems that you have a "Narrow Date" coin
"No design" was set as a distinct feature for the 1950 version of the 50 cent piece as it is applicable
to the "0" in 1950"
Full design , Half design and of course No design are a reference to how much of the lines in the coins design fall inside of the Zero.
As the mint continued to produce coins with the same die stamp,it wore down and left no design.
Typically full design was early in the mintage , half design was in the middle run and no design at the end of the run.
The ND or narrow date 1951 silver 50 cents is worth about 15%-20% more than the wide date.
But the strange rotation will certainly ad extra value.
Hope this helps!
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New Member
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PS the narrow date is decided by how close the number 5 and the number 1 are together in "1951"
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New Member
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Thank you, everything helps. The "1951" at Calgary Coin is likely a misprint.
I didn't know,(also hopeful) after all, the 1 is on a large blank area.
I only have two 1940, a 1943 and a 1944 to compare this with.
There is no design in the 0 of 1940's, other then die cracks on one.
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Valued Member
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For the George VI Fifty Cent series, the 1937,1938,1939,1940 and 1950 years, the date digit spacing remains the same and so there are no wide and narrow dates for these years. For the 1951 and 1952 years the last date digit was punched manually into the dies and so there are wide and narrow dates for these years dependent on the spacing between the 5 and the last digit. For the remaining years, the last two date digits were entered manually into the dies and so there are wide dates and narrow dates and a whole bunch of intermediate dates.
For the 1950's the Mint experimented with polishing the dies and then re-using them to extend die life, and the amount of polishing and its subsequent removal of finer features brought about the half and no design varieties for this year (They did not do this for the 1940 dies).
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New Member
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Thank you pginrh
There are reasons for everything.
I'll post a 1944 date variation.
Manually altering the die until the hoof fit the digit makes a intentional error.
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New Member
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Wide and narrow dates. I think I'm beginning to see things correctly. The size of the numbers decide it, not just the space between them. 1940 wider then 1943   |
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New Member
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Big 4's in 1944 Between High and Low, 1944 Medium 4 where the hoof is at back of 4.  |
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The wide and narrow dates apply to a given year (eg, there are wide and narrow dates for 1943 and for 1944 etc.)....If the space between the date digits is small, then its going to be a narrow date for that year, if the space between the date digits is large, then it is going to be a wide date. A handy way of telling if it is wide or narrow is 'how close is the last date digit is to the hoof'.
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OK, don't compare apples to oranges. I should be able to remember that. Thank you pginrh.
But you see what I was thinking, if the 44 was made from 1940 - 4's, no toe jam.
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