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Questions About A 1936 S Buffalo Nickel - *new Pics Added

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 Posted 04/21/2013  03:23 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add randomasu to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,

I bought this 1936 S nickel along with a 1925 U.S. quarter at VV recently. $1.00 for the pair in a little ziplock bag under the jewelry counter. The quarter is very worn, but the nickel looked pretty decent so I figured I was getting a good deal in any case.
When I got it home and checked it with my 40X loupe, it looked even more interesting!
Below are pictures of the coin taken with a black background and LED lighting. The bright lighting seems to wash it out slightly, but the pictures are pretty close.

The new close ups of the mint mark were taken with a USB microscope.

My questions are:
1) What would you grade it? Is it worth sending in for official grading?
2) The 'S' under the buffalo is stamped on top of something else. Another S? a D? (pic #3) **New pics make it look like it was stamped with an 'S' three times?
3) The '36' in the date seems to be stamped on top of something too. Is this normal? Just part of the design?
4) Why are there four raised lines around the date? (see the red arrows on pic #4).
5) All things considered, what value would you put on it?

Thanks for any help you can give!

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 Posted 04/21/2013  03:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow !! That nickel looks great.

Can you get a closer picture of the mintmark? but looks like an S/S.

I don't know about those lines at the date.
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 Posted 04/21/2013  04:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe there is a 1936 S/S variety known. Wait for another opinion, but your coin might just be one.
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 Posted 04/21/2013  04:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add randomasu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for responding. :)

I've added a couple more pictures. I've taken about 30 just of the mint mark alone and these were the best. I'll try to take some more tomorrow though, and post them. It seems to look different from every angle!
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 Posted 04/21/2013  04:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One place I look online leads me to believe there was a 1936 S/S variety, but I can't find it on other sites.

It's a great coin regardless.

UPDATE - I did find another mention of a 1936 S/S, but their picture of the mint mark shows a more pronounced separation.
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 Posted 04/21/2013  04:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add randomasu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Fuzzy, It's the nicest one I've seen in person. I have 10 of them in my collection but the dates are completely worn off on most of them.

I saw some S/S nickels on ebay as well, but they all looked different than this one. The two S's were pretty obvious. Hopefully I can get some pictures that will make mine clearer! :)

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 Posted 04/21/2013  05:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index...kels-1936-s/

Pictures of two types of 1936-S/S RPMs are at the bottom of this page. Might be RPM-002 but can you try taking more pictures, more magnification of the mint mark?

CONECA lists 3 different S/S mint marks with the secondary image to the east: http://varietyvista.com/Variety%20M....htm#_1936-S No pictures though.

Not sure what to make of those die gouges at the date. They remind me of type setting alignment marks but I don't think that process is part of die-making.
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 Posted 04/21/2013  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know for sure about the lines around the date - I'm no Buff guy - but I will say that the very first two examples I looked at on Heritage both had them. Was the date handpunched? If so, I'm guessing the location template for the date was struck a little too hard into the master die.
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 Posted 04/21/2013  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add randomasu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi again,

I borrowed a USB microscope and took more pictures of the mint mark.

It now looks like it was stamped with an 'S' three times? Is that even possible?
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 Posted 04/21/2013  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice closeups! It does look like an S/S/S, doesn't it? There is a 1936-S/S/S reported in CONECA's list which may match this. Both of the secondaries are north, which with these new pictures, yours seems to be. CONECA RPM-009

Check the link I provided a couple of posts up.

Edited to add: Oh! I just noticed that this was my 500th post and I am now a

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This means you have to respect me now, right? Right?

Oh well, bring on the dancing fruit!


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 Posted 04/21/2013  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add randomasu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks ThisIsFun!! It does look like that's what it is!

Any idea what grade it might be? Worth getting slabbed? I'm pretty new to this and I've never had a coin graded before so I have no clue.



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randomasu, I'm not sure what to tell you about value. I'm not positive of the RPM (but it looks promising), not sure how much value that one adds. Keep investigating, google deep and hard for pictures and other info. As for grade, MS-something? Maybe someone else will chime in with a more specific opinion. I'm not seeing any definite wear. *Maybe* a bit on the flank.

Regarding slabbing-- with variety verification, shipping, and fees it might cost almost as much as the coin is worth :(

If you really want to slab it for whatever reason, ANACS probably makes the most sense for this coin-- they verify and label more varieties than some other TPGs and you can submit without paying a membership fee. (from reading-- I have not used them but plan to soon)
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 Posted 04/21/2013  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoldenChest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats ThisIsFun!!! More fruit for you.


You joined CCF 58 days after me but you way surpassed me in posts, lol. I can't wait until I get there. I already respect what you had to say anyway , but you still desrve this.






As for the OPs coin, I've never had a lot of buffalos, but thats beauty and interesting. Thats all I know.
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 Posted 04/21/2013  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add randomasu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again ThisIsFun. :)

I've been doing a bit of research this afternoon and I think you are right. ANACS seems to be the most sensible way to go.
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