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1960-D Lincoln Cents

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I've purchased 10$ FV of UNC 1960-D cents, for 20$ (shipping included) recently as I've figured that can't be bad deal for under melt prices .

Does these coins have any collector value?
Is it worth the time going over them and picking high grade coins?


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 Posted 04/27/2013  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is not legal to melt them (yet). Look for RPM's and DDO's.
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Yes and yes.

Look at what they have sold for on Numismedia Fair Market Value. Look to see if you got any with small dates.

Happy hunting.
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I'm not suggesting to melt them, but the melt value still has a meaning.
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I'm not trying to create an argument... How does melt value have meaning if it is illegal to melt the pennies? The value is wholly within the willingness of someone to spend money on them. The value is the fair market price... Not the price of copper bullion.
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How does melt value have meaning if it is illegal to melt the pennies?


It has meaning because of two factors:

A. The melt value is a lower bound of the cost of minting.
It is not vital for a coin melt value to be below it's FV (as every coin circulates in multiple transactions before disappearing from circulation), but it quickly reaches a point (as usually total minting cost is more than double melt for base metals) it is not longer economic to mint the coin anymore.

B. If you have multiple coins in the system, with different metal compositions or weight which is not linearly related to their FV, you create a situation where people are preferring one type of currency, hoard it, and spend other forms.

This is known as the Gresham's law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gresham%27s_law).

The process gets a speed up when coin melt value exceeds FV.
The results of hoarding a coin with minting cost > FV are obvious, the government lose money on each such coin.


C. (and perhaps most important).
You may argue that melt is irrelevant when melting is illegal, but then you should ask, why is it illegal, and would it be forever illegal.

IMO, currently it is illegal as cents are still in circulation, and are using as legal tender.

Why would the government allow melting pennies if they would be brought out of circulation?
Simply, it is a cheap way to provide the market with high grade copper scrap, and they have no use for it if it sits in your house.

There's no guarantee this would happen, but I think after a couple of years at most outside circulation, melting will be legal.

When will the cents come out of circulation?
Good question, I have no idea.
If you have asked me that question in 2000, I'd say 2005 at most.
I believe it is around the corner, but I'm already proven wrong for 8 years.
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Let's do this I love,hoard stock pile Lincoln,s from that century 59-69 and if you would like to make some kind of deal shoot me an email
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i got 2500 penny and I got some satisfaction founding some nice coins (errors, wheat , etc ) , in my opinion is not waste of time , of course that is if you are really interested in search and get surprises ... good look ....
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Small dates!
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Quote:
Small dates!


Not from the Denver Mint. The two date sizes received about equal minting in Denver; they're not scarce.
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 Posted 04/29/2013  07:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skyshark124 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, the post did specify Denver didn't it?
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