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New Member
Canada
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you can download it. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thanks for the update. I'll take the next 2 or 3 hours to read through the 106 pages of material. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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One interesting note. Group of seven subscriptions sold =2965 so that should be the max number of boxes out there.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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2012 - 1 cent (CPZ) Zinc 87,972,000
2012 - 1 cent (CPS) Steel 111,375,000
199,347,000 Total. Lowest Since 1966 - 183,644,388. That's only 6 pennies per person.
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Pillar of the Community
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There are more CPS pennies than the CPZ pennies. So why do dealers like Colonial Acres sell the CPS pennies at a premium to the CPZ Pennies? Shouldn't the prices be similar?
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Pillar of the Community
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Hard to say for sure but the eventual death of the penny was announced in late March (I believe) of 2012. By that time, most if not all of the steel pennies had been produced and circulated. The zinc were produced after that date up to May 4th.
I guess that people/dealers started hoarding uncirculated pennies in April and thus most of the uncirculated available were zinc.
So even though more steel were produced, fewer steel exist as uncirculated condition, thus a higher price.
Edited by CC-Ottawa 05/02/2013 6:22 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
548 Posts |
I can't download the darn thing! Or even read it. All I get is a blank page. And when I try opening it in HTML its completely unreadable.
Okay, I fixed it, now I can see it properly. The problem lay between the keyboard and the chair.
Edited by lyradnoj 05/03/2013 2:48 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: The problem lay between the keyboard and the chair. Ah, the old carbon interface malfunction. Hate when that happens to me, and it happens often. I get the ID-ten-tee error a lot too.
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow guys start hoarding the zincers! JK
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Pillar of the Community
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@ CC-Ottawa: Dealers get a bunch of boxes too. I wonder if those factor into the count for sales of subscriptions, or if that number is just the subscriptions bought directly from the mint itself
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Pillar of the Community
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Good point. Not sure about that but I would think the subs sales include subs purchased by dealers.
Really could go either way.
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New Member
Canada
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Some interesting info in this report, I find a few points questionable including "affordable price points" comment in the first paragraph below, and it plans to offer more than 200 new products in 2013, and the quantities of the Special Wrap Rolls.
"Despite record precious metal prices, the Mint will continue to grow the market for numismatics and its customer base by offering designs with wider commercial appeal at affordable price points. During 2013, it plans to issue more than 200 new products"
"In a virtuous cycle of unprecedented innovation and record demand, the Mint issued 136 numismatic (millions of pieces) coins during 2012; 60 were sold out by the end of the year. In 2011, 30 of 110 new coins released sold out"
"Numismatics and Collectibles revenue increased 56.0% to $145.1 million from $93.0 million in 2011, the highest in the Mint's history. The volume of coins produced increased by 89.5% to 3.6 million pieces 903 1,143 1,100 25.15 from 1.9 million pieces in 2011. The number of transactions increased 75.7% to 599,000 in 2012 from 17.6 17.77341,000 in 2011 reflecting the substantial growth in the Mint's customer base across all channels."
"Numismatic coinage, 50-cent Coin Special Wrap Circulation Roll (2012), 2012 Quantities 9,960.
Edited by Chadbk1977 05/05/2013 11:13 am
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Valued Member
Canada
299 Posts |
@Chadbk1977, I would have never paid attention to that myself. Thanks for the info.
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Valued Member
Canada
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In the 2012 annual report, statistics showed only (191,804) Farewell to the Penny 20 4 20, (160,781) Reindeer 20 4 20, (174.474) Polar Bear 20 4 20 (180,020) Queen 20 4 20 have been issued in 2012.
Surprisingly, in the 2011 annual report, it states that (244,000) of the first Maple 20 4 20, as well as (198,000) of Canoe 20 4 20 were issued in 2011.
Can someone demystify those numbers? Now I highly doubt 100 4 100 will exactly issue 50k pieces this year.
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Moderator
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The mintage numbers of the older, base metal loon dollars and two dollars remind me of the nickel dollar mintages of the 1980s... $1 Aureate Nickel 2,414,000 Two dollars 1,531,000 Bear in mind those are the numbers minted. You would have to subtract the ones lost in that northern Ontario Brinks accident (recovered coins were sent back to the mint for the ARP) and coins that were struck, and never left the mint... Some other interesting comments, Quote: Revenue from the Alloy Recovery Program continued to increase, partly due to the launch of a program to recover the first generation one-dollar and two-dollar coins. Quote: Sales of Gold Maple Leaf (GML) coins declined 29.8% to 883,048 ounces, down from 1.2 million ounces in 2011. Sales of Silver Maple Leaf (SML) coins declined by 21.6% to 18.1 million ounces from 23.14 million ounces in 2011. That surprises me, considering the drop in gold and silver prices in 2012, relative to 2010-2011... However, there was some interest in platinum bullion.
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I've heard unconfirmed reports that lower SML and GML sales are due do production delays and not demand.
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