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New Member
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guys, I'm building a new house, and I wanna get a safe for my valuables. actually I read a lot about types and sized, also I read about where to put the safe, where to hide it, and I felt it would be great to get as many suggestions as I can to help me choose the best. and thank you in advance  |
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm a mover, it's harder to pick one up the stairs than it is to haul it down the stairs - so, the heaviest one that can be managed into your basement (or the farthest reaches of your home from the door).
That's just my opinion on placement - also if it can be bolted to the concrete from inside helps.
Edited by zookr
05/03/2013 7:53 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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If your building your own home, plan on an area that is sort of not necessary for anything. Like a small area between two rooms. Regardless of where, just make a fake room somewhere. A real wall in back and a fake, movable wall for the front. You see them all the time in movies. Possibly a floor to ceiling book case that can move either side to side or just swing out. In such a situation a safe may not even be necessary since if no one can see it, no one knows it's there, just as safe as a safe and possibly safer. If people see a safe delivered, they suspect massive valuables in the house. If anyone comes over and sees a safe, again, suspect your keeping millions in it. If you have kids, they will tell the world about the big safe.
And to a small fake room, you can add shelves of any size, kind, material you want. Always possible to redo such an area too. AND you save on purchasing a safe. And if you move someday, you save on moving a large, heavy safe.
I've made such a fake wall around my furnace area. I used really small wheels on the bottom so almost impossible to know the wall can be moved. This entire wall slides away from the furnace, hot water heater, small tool room and no one even knows anything is there. Of course in my case I've had a few people ask don't you have a furnace in this house?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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At the last house my friend built, in the basement, UNDER the front porch (concrete), there is a room. Access is through a hardened door. The doorway is hidden - you have to walk in the room, turn, then turn again to even see the door.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with carl, I keep mine in a room underneath my manor. If you go into my study tilt back the head of my William Shakespeare bust , press the little red button, behind you the bookcase will slide open exposing two poles . Slide down the poles into my secret " man " cave. All my worldly possessions and secrets are hidden there ............  |
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Pillar of the Community
Norway
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just carl, do your arrangement offer any protection against fire? A safe will, if you get a fireproof one, which is not difficult. Not sure about a hidden room.
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Valued Member
United States
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Just carl, so let me get this straight, your secret room where your valuables are stored also contains your hot water heater and furnace? Do you have humidity control in there as well? Any worries about a leak in the plumbing potentially getting on your valuables and potentially ruining them? I had some galvanic corrosion cause a pinhole leak in my basement plumbing a few years ago... Have since replaced all the old galvanized pipe.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yeah carl! What's your address? We need to.. er.. send over the-- the room inspector... to-er ... make sure there aren't any leaks!
... yeah! ;-)
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05/05/2013 12:03 am
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New Member
 United States
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thank you guys,
your suggestions are all valuable and really helped me
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New Member
United States
21 Posts |
actually, I've always been thinking that the floor safe is the best choice, I know it's really super for coins, jewelry, gold and silver because it is perfectly burglary resistant, but the thing that really amazed me is that the floor safe does not withstand fire or extremely high temperatures because nearly all floor safes don't have a fire retardant material included.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm a contractor by trade & I have actually built a couple of areas for customer's safes. One being a hidden room w/ a door, that when closed you would never know it was there. It was a fun project to do. And a lot of thought & planning involved. Feel free to drop me a pm.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Let me also suggest the importance if randomly placing desiccants on the shelves of the interior of the safe.
These devices will severely impede the formation of rust (on steel coins ie) and verdigris on virtually any coin.
Virtually all chemical reactions leading towards some type of undesirable fungus or formation on coins require either a H+ and/or OH- of the H2O molecule in order for the reaction to reach its endpoint.
I could not believe it but the other day I picked up a 'cell phone drying device' for $ 1. This item is a replacement for dry white rice and both items efficiently draw moisture in about 48 hours from the interior of an enclosed phone.
These drying devices would be ideal for the inside of any safe especially entering into the humid summer of the northern hemisphere etc.
I think the Dollar General Store carries them as recently as April 2013.
fyi,
mdpmedia
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New Member
United States
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chris12018, mdpmedia thank you so much, the ideas you gave me are really brilliant
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1200 Posts |
Wow---you're in the "dream position" of every collector/stacker! You can build the safe into the design of the house (essentially building the house design
around the safe). As said above, definitely put it in the basement. As long as you're doing that, I'd do a "pour it yourself" re-bar mesh-reinforced poured
concrete vault enclosure and then just have a safe company custom-install a killer door (after first interfacing their needs/reqs with your design). Make sure
you do up the area under and surrounding the basement with overkill-level drainage (perforated piping, leach field, dry wells, etc) to minimize ground water
build-up and retention and also do the inside of the vault with desiccant as suggested above.
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