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Price Vs Amount Of Silver

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 Posted 05/05/2013  7:27 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I read many comments about how the drop in silver price (and gold) could or should affect Mint products and discussions about a NCLT or a bullion coin.

Here I found a beautiful silver coin that has just 31.1 g and his price is around $2,000 depending of the seller : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mongolia-20...em2ec748280b

The video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkZLZKsayb0

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 Posted 05/05/2013  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The series is very familiar.
The price of this coins:
Wolverine ~ $1.700
Ural Owl ~ $800
Hedgehog ~ $500
and 4-th coin - IMO not beautiful as first 3

has nothing to it's silver content.

If I am not wrong, initial price of the Wolverine was $69, and then was distributed for $129.
But the coin won COTY award, and slowly the price went up, raising significantly with each of new releases in this series.

So actually for this coin is relevant:
it costs the amount, that you ready to pay for it.

Added:
One of the CCF members has 2011 Ural Owl for sale...just search ebay and you will find it.
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05/05/2013 7:41 pm
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 Posted 05/05/2013  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rp14 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That one is the least expensive on ebay, here is another one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mongolia-20...em257d06215e

My opinion of people who argue that a coin contains 1 oz of silver should be sold for ~$25 don't get it. You don't go into an art gallery and say "The canvas that painting was made on is only work $10, I'm going to give you $10 for it."
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 Posted 05/05/2013  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I agree with is.

I did like the beauty of the series, but my budget was OK only for Hedgehog. And in anyway, not easy to pay such amount for the coin, having no numis value, just because you like it.
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 Posted 05/05/2013  8:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean with "numismatic value"?
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 Posted 05/05/2013  9:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
You don't go into an art gallery and say "The canvas that painting was made on is only work $10, I'm going to give you $10 for it."


This is true, but the artist does not paint the exact same painting by the millions either. The mass produced paintings go for just a few dollars more than the cost of materials.
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 Posted 05/05/2013  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Think of the coins that trade at these values as more like works of art. Coins like Silver Maple Leaves or VF20 1966 quarters trade based on bullion value. Numismatic value is generally used for circulation coins and reflects the difference in the value between the face value of the coin (or its bullion value if applicable) and what it actually trades for. You don't get an 1858 penny for 1 cent or for the 5 cents of copper that's in it.
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 Posted 05/05/2013  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A single unique and coveted paining is worth a fortune.
A limited edition lithograph has value.

But if they pop out 50,000 copies, then what?

The scarcity is a factor that can not be dismissed. A $20 for $20 won a COTY too.

The Mongolian coin was 2500. The $20 for $20 was 250,000.


It's the combo of a high mintage AND a high price/BV that is attacked. Like the upcoming 50,000 $100 for $100 for 1oz.
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 Posted 05/05/2013  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't buy from me. I'm fishing with this coin (and don't really want to see it go). It's not really worth what I'm asking in that if you are patient on ebay you can find an owl for under $600.

Careful now with these Mongolian coins. A few too many seems to be coming straight out of China and with newer eBayers... shady~

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 Posted 05/05/2013  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allspice to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's funny about ebay though; the asking price doesn't always reflect the selling price. Completed listings gives a more realistic value of the coin (or what people are willing to pay for it):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-Mongol...em4172cf1d53
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