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Have spent ages looking online to identify this head. Can anyone help, is it even roman?

The coin is tiny at 10mm.

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 Posted 05/12/2013  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is roman... sort of. A barbaric tribe has copied a late roman coin - probably after the romans left and the coinage stopped being shipped in. If you post a good enough resolution picture of the legend, it might be possible to tell who its copying.
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 Posted 05/12/2013  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How fascinating. Having a few difficulties with getting decent photos. I will go and practice!
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 Posted 05/12/2013  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This one is not 'road kill', it's much too ancient for that!

Perhaps 'Chariot kill? I once visited Pompey as a tourist a long time ago, you know!

What is it's approximate weight and diameter?
I was thinking contemporary LRB, but that ladder like structure throws me off a bit. Could be part of some sort of head gear.
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Looks like someone tried to copy a diadem who's never seen one in real life. Perhaps they worked from 2 coins - 1 ladder diadem, 1 pearl.

Either way, the reverse is a very common one for the late romans. I have too many! Victory advancing left dragging captive. They usually have a right facing bust though.
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Tried to do better with the photos, they are still not brilliant though.

The weight is approximately 0.70g but I don't know how accurate the scale is.

Got to make dinner now......




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Wow...what is that? Looks like someone intended to make a helmeted bust.
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That is a really neat barbaric imitation the reverse which looks like the emperor dragging a captive, leads me to think it's supposed to be Valentinian or Valens.
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I think I will soak it and try and get a bit more detail and repost.
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I'm assuming it was found in England.
A typical, yet still interesting, Unofficial Issue/ancient imitation by the Romano-British, of an AE Follis that commemorates the founding of the city of Constantinople.
Based on the example below:
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Thanks Masis, the reverse does have similarities. I wonder who my guy is.
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You're welcome!
The obverse depicts the personification of the then new city of Constantinople, while the reverse depicts Victory, standing to the left, upon a Galley (Roman war ship), holding a sceptre with her right hand and resting her left upon a shield. So a "Girl" rather than a "Guy"
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