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 Posted 05/16/2013  4:57 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Jim88 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
One thing I don't understand that maybe someone could explain.
When I'm looking in a Krause Catalog at a coin lets say it is a gold coin. I'm looking at page 474 of Standard Catalog of World Coins 1801-1900, KM# 502 10 Mark for example.
The F grade shows BV and with some coins will show a line through it. Now the next grade up, VF shows 110.
This coin has a gold content of 0.1152 oz so at current price of around $1386 this BV = $160 which is more than the next grade up 110. Am I meant to add the 110 to the BV to value the coin?
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 Posted 05/16/2013  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When your book was printed, melt value for that coin was far less than it is today. Krause values can only ever be relative, like any printed price list.
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Somewhere in the introduction pages to your Krause volume it will tell you what the bullion spot prices were at the time the catalogue was compiled. If spot prices have changed a lot since then, you'll need to do some calculations... or find a more up-to-date catalogue.

For example, suppose you work out that the BV of your coin, at the time the catalogue was printed, was $95. That means that the numismatic premium (the amount above BV that a coin collector would pay for the coin) of that coin in that condition at that time was $15. A reasonable estimate of current catalogue value would therefore be whatever the BV is right now ($160) plus the same premium of $15, giving you $175.
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That makes sense, thanks guys. Maybe Krause should start putting up their values as a figure of BV + $xxx so it would be easier to figure it out.
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Well, if the price of bullion does not change much over the course of a year, then quoting a single price is easier and more convenient for catalogue users than making them stop, find out the current BV and then and do maths each time they want to look up a coin. Krause is still working on the assumption that the bullion price does not change very much, or very fast. This assumption has been valid for most of the history of the production of the Krause catalogue.
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You should find the BV's used in the "How to Use This Catalog" section, subsection "Bullion Value Charts" (p14 in my version of the 1801-1900 cat, 3rd ed).

Not having looked in that introductory section for quite some years I took a little trip down memory lane and it was a little amusing to see the Gold & Platinum Bullion Chart range from $270 - $410 and the Silver one range from $3 - $10 with valuations based on $4.75 (Ag), $265 (Au), $620 (Pt) and $800 (Pd) lol.

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