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 Posted 05/13/2013  10:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am just curious at what point, other CCF members consider a collection complete. (I am thinking most will say never)

I have been thinking lately that I would like to move on to just a general style of collecting, just finding interesting coins.

The problem is .. when I pick up one of my dansco's I keep finding coins .. that I think I can find better. Then I use up money from my coin fund to buy coins for holes I already have filled.

It really is some sort of sickness, like when I pick up my Lincoln Cent album and see that I don't have a 1922 "no D" and thinking about buying one .. hundreds of dollars for a coin that I wish there was not a slot for. Or pick up my Washington quarter set and think that 1937 S is only a fine .. I bet I could find a XF/AU example.

In a hobby where there are so many different styles on how to collect, from low ball sets to super high grade. There must be some point where a particular set is complete.
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 Posted 05/13/2013  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsbruton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My collection will never be complete...just keeps growing.
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 Posted 05/13/2013  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For me personally, I'm not a "gotta collect 'em all" set-completer.

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The problem is .. when I pick up one of my dansco's I keep finding coins .. that I think I can find better.

...like when I pick up my Lincoln Cent album and see that I don't have a 1922 "no D" and thinking about buying one.. hundreds of dollars for a coin that I wish there was not a slot for.

If you're sick and tired of seeing unfillable and/or unwanted gaps in your albums, there's an easy fix: throw away the pre-printed Danscos and buy blank albums.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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 Posted 05/14/2013  02:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mailman28 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm also not a "fill in all the holes" collector...I buy coins that are interesting to me for whatever reason. I've gone from Peace dollars to Walking Liberty halves to ASE's to Morgan's and right now Franklins and early proof/mint sets. I second getting rid of the labeled albums if just to ease the pressure to upgrade/fill over and over again.
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 Posted 05/14/2013  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add buddy16cat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it depends on the collector and what they like. There are no rules really. Some want to fill up that coin book others are content with a few examples from different series or like to collect types. Some are all over the place. Some are just hoarders or accumulators with no sense of order at all.
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 Posted 05/14/2013  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jrokshady to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I consider a set complete when I have one of each date and mintmark. No proofs or error coins. If I find a better example of a coin later and add it to my set, to me that is swapping out a coin from an already completed set.
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 Posted 05/14/2013  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I completely understand your problem GR58. For me, I try to define what the complete set is before I start working on it and then stick to that otherwise I would be at it forever too. For example, I am putting together a complete set of Ike's right now. Since it was a short series I went with all issues including proofs. There are 4 empty holes at the end that I decided I would fill (hate blank spots too) with three Eisenhower Proof Commems and 1 Ike Variety. I also decided in advance what my quality standard was and have to keep reminding my self what the initial goal was or I would be looking at upgrades in a few cases already.

No right way to do it in this hobby but this is how I try to help reduce the urges you seem to have trouble with too.
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 Posted 05/14/2013  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The main (and only decently defined) "set" I'm working on is a type set of the 1 kopek denomination; date range is 1535-2009 (starting with the so-called "sword kopek" of young Ivan IV, minted 1535-38, which I consider the earliest type that can be honestly called "kopek", and ending with the current Russian 1 kopek coin discontinued in 2009).
As it currently is, I seem to have all reasonably common non-silver types, and a few of the silver ones (three to be exact - had two more but lost them).
As such, what I'm missing could be divided in three general categories:

Category 1. Coins that are reasonably common (and are unlikely to cost me over, say, $10), but I just haven't got any yet (and/or used to but managed to lose).
This includes almost all main silver kopek types that I don't have yet; specifically, coins from the reigns of False Dmitry (I), Vasily Shuisky, Mihail Feodorovich, Alexey Mihailovich, Peter I, and likely Feodor III and Ivan V (I don't know much about these yet), as well as Swedish Novgorod (I used to have one of these, but lost it recently, and it was in ridiculously low grade anyway). False Dmitry might actually be in the next category (I haven't seen a lot of his coins for sale lately).

Category 2. Coins that are unquestionably separate types minted for circulation, but are rare enough that they would probably be expensive for me (as in $20+).
This includes the so-called "cloud" (1750s), "ring" (1800s), and Siberian kopeks, as well as young Ivan IV (1530s "sword kopek") and Vladislav (1610-1612) silver types; the lesser reigns of the Time of Troubles attributed by particular die* pairings (such as Feodor II) are either this or the next category (actually, most of these just aren't something I would consider separate types).

Category 3. Coins that might be separate circulation types but could just count as patterns (I'm of course not including patterns, there's far too many of them and they're all far too expensive).
This includes the 1762 "drums" issue of Peter III (I know the 4 and 10 kopek coins from these series were real circulation coins, I just don't know about the 1 kopek), the 1796 "dots" issue of Catherine II and the 1724 "rectangle" issue of Peter I (as well as, possibly, some of the silvers listed in the previous category).

...I'd say that my set will be fully "complete" when I finish the first two categories minus the "lesser rulers" (that aren't their own types - False Dmitry I and Vladislav are, but everyone else just made some combination of existing names) and plus whatever of the third category turns out to not be a pattern after all (in order of more to less likely, 1724, 1762 or 1796).
Realistically, sometime in this May or June I'll probably get most of the common silvers, and maybe the "cloud" or Siberian copper if I get enough money from somewhere; by the end of 2013 I expect to have all the named silvers except for one or two of the "unknown" reigns (False Dmitry, Vladislav, Feodor III, Ivan V), and either a "cloud" or a Siberian copper, if not both (the remaining "ring" type seems to have prices of at least $200 in any reasonable grade). That still won't make my set "complete" in any meaningful way, but at least it will leave it without any ridiculous gaps (I mean, seriously, I don't seem to have a single type from the entire 17th century).
Oh, and upgrades? Well, I might consider upgrades for the more awful "common" examples (Elisabeth, Catherine II, *shudder* Ivan IV - the last two were actually among the first coins I bought for this set, back when I wasn't aware of their actual values, so they're the first ones to be upgraded as soon as I can) when I have the sort of money that would make me able to buy one of the rarer coins (most of my current coins in this "set" were for $5 or less - some for less than $2 (and a few for under $1, but they're all already decent enough not to be upgrade candidates) - and could probably easily be upgraded significantly for under $10 per coin).

...Okay, this was a ridiculously long wall of text. Sorry. In short: yes, I have a decent idea of what I need for a "complete" set, but I'm fairly sure that I'll never finish it anyway because there's just too many very rare and expensive types (at least I have distanced myself from the sheer quagmire that is Russian coinage before unification...)



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 Posted 05/14/2013  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some interesting opinions being posted here.

I do think I need to put up some of my collection, and start a new direction.

My thoughts are to put up my Lincoln, Jefferson, Roosevelt and Washington sets. They are complete. My Buffalo nickel and Standing Liberty quarter set I know I will never finish, I guess because there are so many high price coins, and I don't feel a connection to them.

The idea of having some blank albums, to put what ever coins I like into, sounds very good.

I do think I want to get a case for just slabs, to make a group of better coins. Some I have, some I want to get
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 Posted 05/14/2013  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Demarco Bishopp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even if I had every gold sovereign ever minted I would still want the one that gets minted in 2014. My collection will never be complete.
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To take this a step further.

I just counted all my U.S. cents, only those In albums, rolls and boxed 2X2's.
I have 1443 cents.

Now I am thinking, why do I have so many, I think the albums have less than 400 .... So really that is a 1000+ cents ... That I have no idea why I have them

I think this is part of the same problem .... There has to be a point when you don't need more Lincoln cents ... And move on to other coins
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 Posted 05/14/2013  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My collection is complete when the album holes are filled (even that evil 1922 hole in the Lincoln Dansco).

It helps that I do not like to upgrade and prefer to keep what I have.
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I am like jbuck on this one. Once the book is filled move on. Might fill another of the same thing. I guess thats why the wife wishes it was all over. LOL
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 Posted 05/14/2013  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsbruton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have the 1922 no D but, I do need the dreaded 1955 DDO and the 1909 s VDB.
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One other thing I had a complete set of Kennedy halves including the silver proofs and now I'm four coins short because of 2013...and it happens every year.
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Oh boy, I question I ask myself.
I collect four series of coins: nickels, dimes, quarters and halves from Charles Barber.
The nickels, dimes and halves are complete. By that I mean an example of each date and mint.
The quarters are complete except for two of the "big three": 96-s 01-S and 13-s.
Oops, wait, I have a 13-s!

The nickels and dime are Fine and above. The halves and quarters are so-so.
[Can't collect everything, don't you know?]

I branched off into the Liberty Seated - 1837 - just a type set Half Dime and dime, 1875 20 cent, 1876 Dime, and 1878 quarter.
Oh, all three from CC. And a few others.

What else?

1857 and 1858 Flying Eagles. An 1867 Nickel. Oh, and a decent 1799 Dollar. 1818 Half Dollar.

Yes, I am all over the place, but all of the coins that I have are easily salable.

I have a 1913-S type II Nickel, a 1932-D quarter, the three 1921 Walkers plus a 38-d. Nothing too special, just key dates.
A 1917 type I quarter.

"Complete" is what makes a collector happy. I am VERY HAPPY!
I wish that all collectors are happy with what they have.

And, at the risk of bragging, yesterday I searched for what a Dansco Gold Page included.
Oops - I have all except one, the $1 Indian head.

Yes, I am quite happy.




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