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Nickel And Penny Errors - Help Identifying

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I have pulled these aside as I have been going through thousands of pennies and nickels. I think I have an 83 nickel with mis-aligned die and a 2001 penny with mis-aligned die.

I am wondering on the 1990 nickel if this is a clip or if it is PMD.

The 64 penny at the top is just weird. Its got a real thick rim around the outside. I am guessing that its some kind of PMD, but not sure.

Any help or confirmations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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1990 Incomplete planchet.
1983 MAD. A collectable one.
2001 Broadstruck uncentered.
1964 Dryer Coin. Damaged.
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1983 MAD. A collectable one.
2001 Broadstruck uncentered.


Is there an easy way to tell the difference, coop?
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The devices fall over the rim. If they don't then they are one of the common ones.
close:
https://www.coincommunity.com/forum...01_image.jpg
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Over rim:
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The hammer die is adjustable, the anvil die is not. So with the dies out of alignment you may find one out of alignment. Mild or wild!
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Coop (or anyone else) - Is an incomplete planchet different than a clip? Is this an error or something that happened after it left the mint? Thanks in advance for your help.
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The 2001 penny is only off-center on the front. Would that make it a mis-aligned die as opposed to a broadstruck un-centered? errors are not my thing - I am just learning about them.
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The 1990D nickel is a launcher clip. I had a good website not long ago on these and now can't remember it. You can tell it's a real clip by looking at the coins rim directly across from the clip. See how it's flattened? Something I learned from someone else on this forum.
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Planchet clip not launcher clip. Lol, I hate auto complete.
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Thanks Metzger - the autocomplete confused me for a second. Appreciate the help.
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CoinCbass: Coop (or anyone else) - Is an incomplete planchet different than a clip? Is this an error or something that happened after it left the mint? Thanks in advance for your help.

The technical term is incomplete planchet. AKA clip. Same thing, but the correct term is better. When you think clip, you may think the coin was clipped during the striking of the coin. The stock material was reinserted started and then re-inserted because of probably cause of an alignment issue. When reinserted if the punching had started, there is missing material on the stock. These first first few blanks will have part of the material missing from the blanks. (Like if you used a hole puncher and made a punch, then made a close punch near previous punched material, there will not be a circle punched out the second time.) After the punching makes blanks, then the blanks are run through an UPset mill. This adds the rim to the blank making it now a planchet. During this process the area where there is a clip, the opposite side the blank will have a weak rim 180 degress from the clip. So the planchet has what is called a Blakesley affect there. Thus when the coin is later struck, the blakesley will still be present. Some times on one/two sides of the coin. Hope this helps.
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Thanks Coop. your expertise is pretty obvious. I appreciate the help!
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It's certainly commendable when the knowledgable numismatists on this site don't feel it beneath them to educate those of us with less experience
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I like to not give just yes or no answers. I try to help others to see what I'm seeing. Kind of the saying. "Give a man a fish and he will eat that day. Teach a man how to fish and he can eat for a lifetime."
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