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 Posted 05/20/2013  11:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wooster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hey guys found this item at a 1940-50s Migrant Camp with my at-pro its app 15mm wide ... have got no idea what it is ... took it too a coin dealer who bleieves it is made out of copper any asistance would be appreciated cheers

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 Posted 05/20/2013  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


I believe your friend has already posted it.
Medallion? Found in Australia.

their pictures are a little clearer, copying them here.


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On the crest side, top right corner, it says 'winter'. An archer on the opposite face.

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 Posted 05/24/2013  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is an Ullr medal; a talisman carried by Central European skiers, supposedly invoking the Germanic god of winter. The one face bears the German federal eagle on a shield with the legend "Schutz-patron aller Winter-sportler" (guardian-patron of all winter athletes). The other has the letters ULLR above the usual figure with pointed cap, skis, and a bow. Wide variety in design, but this one's pretty close. It sure was found a long way from home!

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 Posted 05/24/2013  10:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wooster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you so much philadelphian I have been hunting for this for so long ... very much appreciated

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 Posted 05/24/2013  11:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wooster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
where bouts did you find the info from? also do you know what era it came from? again thank you for the help

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 Posted 05/25/2013  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I'm not a skier, and I certainly never heard of these before investigating yours. I did recognize the arms as being either the Reichsadler (imperial eagle) or Bundesadler (federal eagle) of Germany, and noting the Gothic script in "winter," I figured it was the German word, which is the same as in English. Looking at the next word in that light, I was able to make out "sportler," and then it just took some googling. The pics I lifted from a listing on an Italian antiquarian retail site, with no enlightening info. The main clue to the approximate date is the eagle; the shield side of the medal I found is virtually identical to yours, down to the smaller, modern trade marking beneath the Gothic script (see the "marque" beneath "winter?"), so looking there, the eagle has an odd, flat, heart-shaped chest because shortly before this version of the arms, it bore a small inescutcheon shield of the Prussian arms. This was removed by the Weimar Republic in 1919, though, oddly, this eagle still wears the Imperial crown. I think this medal was made after 1919, but probably not much after 1935, when the Nazis made their own changes to the eagle. Unless, of course, a later maker was trying to invoke earlier, happier days on the slopes of the German Alps. If I were to pick the most likely place where everything you would want to know about this Ullr medal could be gotten from a passer-by for the price of a friendly beer, though, it would be Garmisch-Partenkirchen, the skiing capital of Germany.
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Thanks philadelphian I found it at an old Migrant camp that housed about 3000 people between 1940-60s ... obviously brought over here with one of them
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 Posted 05/25/2013  08:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How's the skiing in that part of Australia?
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