Found these in a couple of penny rolls last night. The first is a MAD penny that has no rim (upper left). The second is here more for help on classification, but based on other posts, I think it's a slight case of railroad rim.
Thanks for the clarification. Seems the hardest part of this is learning the examples and when they "are enough" to keep. But, as I keep looking I seem to be "seeing" more.
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