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How Many Set Of 2013 ASE Westpoint Mint Have You Bought?

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 Posted 06/07/2013  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Piccolo1r to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just pre-ordered a graded set from SilverTowne.....
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 Posted 06/07/2013  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakeman406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
silver towen only has 135 pcgs 70 FS flag labels left and 141 west point blue labels 70 sets
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 Posted 06/07/2013  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakeman406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
was thanking about grabbing a FS pcgs 70 set from silver towne but can't decide if I want the flag label or the blue west point label . What are you guys that are buying these pcgs 70 sets going with thanks in advance for your feedback
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 Posted 06/07/2013  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doug58s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also doubt the number from yesterday reflected the orders for the day up to 3pm.

Based on the high expectation of the graders - I am expecting a lot of 70's graded coins.
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I got both but I got some to sell later on to pay for the ones I'm keeping like I did with last years set, could back fire could pay off well see.

Between the two I cant decide which one I like better but I've actually seen 4 unique labels for these so far and REALLY like the other two but they come with a stiff premium right off the bat.

http://www.wasatchcoin.com/silver-e...eedom-label/

http://www.wasatchcoin.com/silver-e...on-me-label/

The freedom label is my favorite of all of them.

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 Posted 06/07/2013  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cali_Nick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let me know before you cancel any orders, I might want one more set.
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 Posted 06/07/2013  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakeman406 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree the freedom label is one of the nicest I've saw would love to have it but the price tag is a little to much for me guess I'll go with west point blue label
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Yea at 399 youre not getting any pre order savings on it. I do have my eye out though to see if any of the other places get any of those for the same price as the others
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 Posted 06/07/2013  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add havanacoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the MS70 FS Flag ones were out of stock at silvertown last night - back in stock I see - I ordered one from Goldmart... oh well
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 Posted 06/07/2013  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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The 30,000 increase is most likely a reflection of all of the sales made yesterday not just the last 2 hours.


Correct...when the counter was first used last year it reported at 3pm the previous days cumulative totals....

Same this time...
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 Posted 06/07/2013  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SA4H to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the quality of this set is in range with other West Point's products, I am pretty sure not a lot of returns will occur (especially if the Mint keep its word and keep both coins unique).

The value of the graded PF70 set is a different story since if the quality is good, more 70s set, less price appreciation.
Grading a set will cost about $50, if the chance of getting 70s is around 50% then send in 4 sets will cost $200, resulting in 2ea 70s sets. So, total cost: about $800 (buying from the mint & grading cost) vs value (two 70s set worth around $800 + two 69s sets worth around $300) ===> net gain in value $300, deduct 20% for your time and expenses, still %140 NET...... Not bad.
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 Posted 06/08/2013  04:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mint closes its daily books at around 3PM ET and reports sales up to that time each day. It is not a report of the previous day's sales and was not last year. That time is also the cutoff for orders actually getting shipped on any given day. If an order gets marked as shipped after 3PM then it actually ships the next day. I don't see any reason to doubt that there could have been 30,000 sets ordered in the last two or three hours, especially after almost 140,000 in the first day (which included many small orders). It would have only taken a couple of large dealer orders to make this happen. Of course, those orders will not be eligible for FS/ER labels but if the quality is as it is expected by many to be, it is still a worthwhile investment. Remember that the volume dealers pay far less per coin for grading than we do, and far less for any fancy labels that may help them sell the coins. I think that with sales where they were yesterday, there was a lot of incentive for a few more large orders.
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 Posted 06/08/2013  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add clairhardesty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are graphs of last & this year's sales:
The two year's sales arrived at very nearly the same totals in very different ways.

How-Many-Set-Of-2013-ASE-Westpoint-Mint-Have-You-Bought?

How-Many-Set-Of-2013-ASE-Westpoint-Mint-Have-You-Bought?
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 Posted 06/08/2013  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Foxwoods Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't see any reason to doubt that there could have been 30,000 sets ordered in the last two or three hours,


...and you are entitled to your beliefs but it makes more sense that that was a full day total...not worth arguing about though

I should add:

From "Coin Update"


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The pace of sales subsided for much of the four week ordering window, with the pace picking up during the final days of availability. The last update reflecting the final day of sales showed an increase of 29,615 bringing the overall total to 281,310 units.



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6/5/2013 9,948 243,226
6/6/2013 8,469 251,695
6/7/2013 29,615 281,310
Edited by Foxwoods Man
06/08/2013 06:53 am
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 Posted 06/08/2013  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add devilsbite to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One for myself to keep. Would have liked to gotten more, budget was limited.

clairhardesty - thank you! Your commentary is always insightful and the graphs you provided are awesome!
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