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1884 Seated Liberty Dime

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I need opinions on grading.Thanks in advance.


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 Posted 06/01/2013  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
AU cleaned
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 Posted 06/01/2013  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
100% not cleaned.
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 Posted 06/01/2013  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...not cleaned. this is a very nice MS example. to me it's looking MS64 maybe 65.
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 Posted 06/01/2013  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
not cleaned
MS64 IMO

downward sloping date, looks like clashing on the obverse from Liberty's head to the phrygian cap, i'd love to see tighter closeups or if you can look with a loop and see if there's any clashing

could be an A-1/F-102....any doubling on the digits or ONE DIME on the reverse?

really beautiful dime, thanks for sharing
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 Posted 06/01/2013  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS-63 and was most likely dipped but not cleaned.
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MS-63 and was most likely dipped but not cleaned

Nope-not dipped.I can warranty it.I have very busy day so Ill connect microscope and take closeups in the evening.Thanks for input guys
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Nope-not dipped.I can warranty it.


You've owned it since 1884?

If it's been dipped, it wasn't done to excess and is quite market-acceptable. You can't tell if a coin has been dipped correctly. Undoubtedly Uncirculated, but I hesitate to make definitive judgments regarding grade from such small images. 63-ish sounds right.
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Yes, does not appear to be improperly cleaned.

Guess would be MS63. Nice piece.
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I'm learning here on this one from the experts

dipped seems to have a hazy finish to it, yes?

if I take this 1888 as an example of a not dipped BU+ and compare am I seeing the mirrors are not so hazy?





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 Posted 06/02/2013  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add valdiman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for reply guysFew more closeups.I cant see any clashing or doubled date.

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You've owned it since 1884?
Let me just quickly check my DOB


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dipped seems to have a hazy finish to it, yes?
I'm curious as well.

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Microscope pics don't have enough depth(at least mine).
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Looks like a MS-63 to me.
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The luster looks consistent with other uncleaned silver coins I have seen. I don't see any wear -- only some striking flatness in the head. There are some marks in the obverse field. It should be at least MS63 (with a good shot at MS64).
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With as much frostiness as this coin has, I'm in the 100% original crowd and yes, MS63ish sounds right. Lovely coin!
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...dipped seems to have a hazy finish to it, yes?


Not necessarily. Over-dipped coins tend to look dull or flat with subdued luster. As vermontensium noted, over-dipping will remove all original mint "frost". Because this usually leaves no signs of abrasive or harsh cleaning, over-dipped coins are often holdered in problem-free slabs at lower grades than original pieces. Over-dipping an MS64 coin could turn it into a MS62 quickly.

A single, quick, expert dip that is immediately and thoroughly rinsed is pretty much undetectable. It will not hurt the grade and will preserve enough of the surfaces so that most people would call them original even if they're not.
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