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1965 SMS Quarter Concea# 1-R-Ii+vi New Pictures

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 Posted 05/20/2007  07:32 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I open one of 1965 SMS yesterday and found this. I have known that it maybe in the set from looking thur plastic, but was not sure until I open plastic.

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I was very happy to find it and it may have lite cameo
I may sell it on the form auction site

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on picture DDR SMS A the wing top is doubled the pic is a little fuzzy
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05/22/2007 2:52 pm
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 Posted 05/20/2007  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tpatna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome find. I will have to look at my set now.
Thanks for sharing

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 Posted 05/20/2007  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Southern Yankee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This looks more like Mechanical Doubling to me. The variety you listed states doubling on all the reverse lettering. Can you post pics of some of the other lettering.
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 Posted 05/20/2007  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I will try post more tomorrow morning
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This is not a doubled die. It is Machine Doubling. No notching and the doubling is flattened down.
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I was thinking the exact same thing
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Not only that but a class II+VI doubled die would have extra thickness and separation toward the rim of the coin, not clockwise or counterclockwise. That would be a class I or class V doubled die, either rotated hub or pivoted hub doubling.

Amac44 - I night suggest a book that explains the classes of hub doubling and how to tell hub doubling from Machine Doubling. It might help clear up some of the mystery for you. One book that comes to mind is "Strike It Rich With Pocket Change" by Brian Allen and Ken Potter. Pages 20-29 could prove to be valuable reading for you.
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 Posted 05/22/2007  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
class IV is how the cherry-pickers guide define this coin.it is new fine that is also stated in the CPG.so we both maybe right
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If you are talking about the 4th edition volume 2 that just came out this past year, you are incorrect. The die is listed there as class II+VI...not as a class IV.

We are not both right, your coin is not a doubled die.
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 Posted 05/23/2007  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We will see it been sent off to be graded by NGC
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